Most humiliating FG defeats

[Marvaddin]

I dont understand it well. All Pegasi will have 3 attack, including the one you created using TU? If this is true, how to get that 499 attack Wyrm?

[Ryli]

I dont understand it well. All Pegasi will have 3 attack, including the one you created using TU? If this is true, how to get that 499 attack Wyrm?

pegasus has 3 attack. Dive it puts it to 6. TU that and you get a 2nd with 6.
The high attack Wyrms were created through many buffs and TUs

[Memorystick]

7.  Positive Pegasi
Symptoms:  Your Pegasus loses it's antimattered effect
Causes:  There was an old exploit involving twin universe and pegasus.  If you twin'd your pegasus, it's base attack power would stay the same, but it's current attack power would remain dived, allowing you to dive again, and doubling the attack power once more.  To fix this, Zanz added code returning the attack power of pegasus to it's base attack power after diving, meaning antimatter goes away.

And if you don't dive it... it stays that way. Anyway, back on topic-

Paradox had a hard time finding his hourglasses, TUs, and creatures The one hourglass he drew I stole, and then mutated a turquoise nymph with steal (which he TU'd twice, in two different turns, although my oty could handle those), and started stealling pillars. I then rewinded-hastened the nymph so I could start quinting around 3-4 cards left, and won before I had to start bouncing a skeleton
I had a similar experience with Gemini- he had a bad draw, and I set up without fear- although he did start chaining shields- and I got a turquoise nymph in that one too. No screenshot of it, though

EDIT: Looks like flash decided to crash after I pasted the screenshot into paint, but before I ended my turn. Way to go flash :/

[Nume]

I dont understand it well. All Pegasi will have 3 attack, including the one you created using TU? If this is true, how to get that 499 attack Wyrm?

When it says it returns to base attack, it doesnt mean it returns to 3. It goes down to whatever number it shows on the tooltip under attack, which will go up if you buff it. You used to be able to buff a pegasus, dive it, tu it and the TU'd one would stay at the higher attack level even though its attack on the tooltip was the original. Now it always goes back to the attack showed on the tooltip after dive (so a blessed pegasus would go from 6 to 12 and back to 6 during dive process).

[Nume]

Lol I just got epic rushed by destiny... I was using a 30 card deck ( http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10139.0.html ) and used my hourglass twice, so the screenshot is literally 3 or 4 turns in....
(http://imageplay.net/)
Edit: the cryosara is an oracle pet in case anyone wonders .

[ayoth]

(http://imageplay.net/)

Apparently the limit is 499. I think this limitation was added recently, due to potential infinite cards via reverse time + mindgate. Also, now the attack of a twinned-diving creature drops back to the original after two turns, so basically you have to use TU every single turn to keep it up. I was only able to do this in trainer.

I actually had the attack of the middle-right wyrm at 982, but it dropped to 499 when I cast TU on it. I wasn't able to see if it would have dropped anyway during its attack (like how a scarab's health changes), or if I could've broken 1000 attack by diving the 499 for a 998 and then tossing another blessing, because I had to either kill Incarnate that turn or play a sundial and then deck out.

So 499 does seem to be the stable limit, I'm guessing because 499 is also the limit for health (or maybe 500), and anything higher is unimportant because either the attack is blocked, or the opponent is dead.

I still don't get how the attack went to 499...

[Ryli]

Lol I just got epic rushed by destiny... I was using a 30 card deck ( http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10139.0.html ) and used my hourglass twice, so the screenshot is literally 3 or 4 turns in....
(http://imageplay.net/)
Edit: the cryosara is an oracle pet in case anyone wonders .

Whaaaat? Destiny has the ability to win that fast? 0_o lol
I don't think I've ever lost to destiny, let alone that fast.

[Nume]

Lol I just got epic rushed by destiny... I was using a 30 card deck ( http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10139.0.html ) and used my hourglass twice, so the screenshot is literally 3 or 4 turns in....
(http://imageplay.net/)
Edit: the cryosara is an oracle pet in case anyone wonders .

Whaaaat? Destiny has the ability to win that fast? 0_o lol
I don't think I've ever lost to destiny, let alone that fast.

Lol yeah it was so fast it was funny... i'm pretty sure it was 4 turns for him to win. First turn he played fate egg, 2nd turn hatched it to first dragon and buffed it quite a bit, 3rd turn buffed it more and played a 2nd and 3rd fate egg, then 4th turn hatched the 2nd egg into arctic dragon and 3rd into the firefly queen, played the druid and won.

[Marvaddin]

I dont understand it well. All Pegasi will have 3 attack, including the one you created using TU? If this is true, how to get that 499 attack Wyrm?

When it says it returns to base attack, it doesnt mean it returns to 3. It goes down to whatever number it shows on the tooltip under attack, which will go up if you buff it. You used to be able to buff a pegasus, dive it, tu it and the TU'd one would stay at the higher attack level even though its attack on the tooltip was the original. Now it always goes back to the attack showed on the tooltip after dive (so a blessed pegasus would go from 6 to 12 and back to 6 during dive process).

But this is the old "problem", isnt it? What is that positive Pegasi thing solving then? Just making useless Antimatter enemy Pegasi? But Antimatter shouldnt change Pegasi base attack?

[Nume]

Its making it so you cant make and keep super buffed pegasi using twin universes. Dive increases attack but not base attack, so the tu'd one has higher attack but not base attack. So before, for example you could take a 6/6 pegasus, dive it, tu it, and have a 12/6 pegasus (still 6 base attack), tu it next turn and dive it to 24, tu again, and have a new pegasus at 24/6 (still 6/6 base). Now, it will reset after one attack rather than staying that way. Anti matter also doesnt effect the base attack, so after diving a AM'd pegasus it resets to base attack.

[miniwally]

Doesn't this mean SoR can go back to being able to use ability first turn?

[swishy]

(http://imageplay.net/view/m7Gbd95879/mbv)

Nothing much better than using quantum denial on decay