Elements 1.21

[Delreich]

Looking at the list of new cards... has Shockwave (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,4182.0.html) been scrapped, or was it just overlooked?


@KH: If you were at 75% for FGs, you can't have played much. Could easily be that your waning luck is having a bigger impact then the changes to the cards.

[coinich]

Mummy also isn't in, so I suppose the two (three if the Pharoh isn't as well) are still being tested.  He's released cards between major updates before.

[oorenotsoo]

well I just logged in and noticed the changed cost of cards. I hope this leads to new and interesting decks. I'm a little sad that steal is now 4 to play. It seems like I need to up all my cards just to get back to where I was. steal, emphatic bond and the hourglasses that is. Though I can't up electrum hourglasses anymore than they already are. I'm off to the trainer so I can start thinking of new deck ideas once the new cards hit the game.

[Kael Hate]

Looking at the list of new cards... has Shockwave (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,4182.0.html) been scrapped, or was it just overlooked?


@KH: If you were at 75% for FGs, you can't have played much. Could easily be that your waning luck is having a bigger impact then the changes to the cards.

My luck always measures Standard Deviation or worse. It is possible that I've gone back on the curve even more but I see no fault in hitting 75% wins vs False gods on the old 1.20.

Hourglasses at 4 and Steal at 3 are the worst nerfs. No longer can a single supernova fuel the steal I need in the Early game against most opponents.

[Kael Hate]

I just loaded the trainer and can see none of the new cards. Whats happening?
(*Hears the echo of Tetsuo in the background*)

Hmmm - Nevermind, did a refresh and they're all there now.

[valuka]

@Kael Hate
My stats are very similar from the new version. I has a ~60% against FG now it is ~20%-30%. The Hourglass for 4 quanta is very bad.

[CelestrialDreamer]

This changes makes the game very harder against the FGs. I am a little bit sad .   

to me this isnt a big problem
I dont use steal and i dun think an increase of 1 quantum cost can slow u down, since dark quanta is not used in rainbows beside for steals
For the hourlgass nerf, it can slows you down by a turn or 2 if u use entropy mark, but that didnt hurt me much
For pulvy, the improved cost will make your grav. pool often empty, since oty consumes them as well
This really slows down the match a bit, but again if wont affect your match much

[valuka]

@CelestrialDreamer

I don't use Steal, but i can imagine before 1.21 you can steal with one supernova, now not. I played today ~ 30 games against FG, but the hourglass for 4 quanta makes it very hard. I don't know, why must fighting against the FGs harder and harder with any version update. Kael Hate has right, must think about a new deck with the new cards, i hope there is a way to find out a new deck. Sry for the bad english.

[elfreth]

Finally getting to slightly >50% record against all FG's and we are nerfed.  What was the reasoning, exactly?  Are we suppose to be unable to defeat the FG's?  If that's the case, just say so and I'll stop trying...It was a challenge, even balanced at around 50%.  Now it's unbalanced again and leads to more frustrations.

Anyway, not really thrilled on the new 1.21.  But then I don't obsess about building decks and such and maybe play 2-3 games a day so it won't be difficult to cut it out of my routine.  At least until someone comes up w/ a new deck idea that, once again, has a small chance of being better than 50% vs FG's.

<shrug>

[Antysiw]

I've seen pharaoh in earth mark + time AI3 deck, he has also eternity. Also some old AI3 decks contain now hmm... guess what - yes, new cards(like fractal!!)

[CB!]

Yeah, cards have been out for about an hour maybe?  I almost won a pharaoh from AI5...

And I'm really liking the phoenix...

[rayne4jesus]

Yeah, cards have been out for about an hour maybe?  I almost won a pharaoh from AI5...

And I'm really liking the phoenix...

do you recall the name of the AI5 you played?