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[OUTDATED] Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg102893#msg102893
« on: June 28, 2010, 03:57:16 pm »
After talking with some friends on kongregate, I decided to start taking statistics to see just how fast various rush decks are.  I've seen people take a few games of statistics here and there, but no mass compilation of deck speeds has been compiled until this one.  I decided AI3 was the best location for these statistics as it has 100 hp and a more concrete deck pool than top 50.  As of now I have 50 tests with each of these decks versus AI3.  As I get time, I am going back and gettting 200 tests for each of these decks, working from fastest to slowest.  Unupped decks are located at the top, unupped decks are located below in the first post.  Click here (#post_upped) to go to upped decks.

Here are my results so far.  I will update them as I get more data.  Feel free to submit stats for your favorite deck.


Unupgraded Decks:

-Grabbix (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html): 6.714 ttw losses: 8 games: 200 - posted by kevkev60614 - updated by willng3
1 Lycanthrope, 4 Nova, 1 Arsenic, 5 Graboid, 1 Forest Spirit, 6 Immolation, 6 Phoenix, 6 Photon, Earth Mark.
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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9-Ubah Stompy (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14020.0.html): 6.995 ttw losses: 6 games: 200 - posted by Polder - updated by willng3
1 Lycanthrope, 4 Nova, 1 Arsenic, 1 Graviton Fire Eater, 1 Forest Spirit, 3 Fire Spirit, 6 Immolation, 6 Lava Golem, 6 Photon, 1 Precognition, Fire Mark.
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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 55u 5c1 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5rr-No Land Stompy (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12102.0.html): 7.420 ttw losses: 18 games: 200 - posted by plastiqe - updated by hrmmm
2 Lycanthrope, 6 Nova, 1 Arsenic, 2 Fire Spirit, 1 Deflagration, 6 Immolation, 6 Lava Golem, 1 Rage Potion, 5 Photon, Fire Mark
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4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 5f3 5f3 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fb 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9-Pillarless The Creation of Life (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9542.0.html): 7.523 ttw losses: 47 games: 200 posted by truddy02 - updated by tuddy02
6 Nova, 4 Emerald Dragons, 6 Rustler, 6 Adrenaline, 2 Blessing, 6 Firefly, Air Mark.
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bv 5bv 5bv 5bv 5bv 5bv 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5lf 5lf 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok-Mono-Earth Shrieker Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,482.0.html): 7.591 ttw losses: 14 games: 200 - posted by jmdt - updated by jmdt
17 Stone Pillar, 6 Graboid, 6 Shrieker, 1 Short Sword, Time Mark.
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4t4 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 590 590 590 590 590 590 591 591 591 591 591 591-Mono-Life Adrenaline Rush (http://url=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1482.0.html): 7.716 ttw losses: 17 games: 200 - posted by jmdt - updated by jmdt
12 Emerald Pillar, 6 Horned Frog, 6 Cockatrice, 6 Adrenaline, Life Mark.
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5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7-Vreely's No Upgrade Fire Rush T50 Killer (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3882.0.html): 7.841 ttw losses: 30 games: 200 - posted by jmdt - updated by jmdt
5 Burning Pillar, 2 Crimson Dragon, 4 Deflagration, 6 Immolation, 5 Lava Golem, 6 Photon, 1 Rage Poton, 1 Hammer, Earth Mark.
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4t5 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f2 5f2 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fb 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9-Mono-Light Blessed Pegasus Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12931.0.html): 8.111 ttw losses: 29 games: 200 - posted by xKelevra - updated by hrmmm
15 Light Pillar, 3 Golden Dragon, 6 Pegasus, 6 Blessing, Air Mark.
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5la 5la 5la 5lb 5lb 5lb 5lb 5lb 5lb 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf-Mono-Death Mummy Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10503.0.html): 8.139 ttw losses: 6 games: 200 - posted by xKelevra - updated by hrmmm
14 Bone Pillars, 4 Bone Dragon, 6 Poison, 6 Mummy, Death Mark.
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52h 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t-ScaredGirls Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6298.0.html): 8.280 ttw losses: 4 games: 50 - posted by hrmmm
1 Lycanthrope, 4 Nova, 1 Arsenic, 1 Graviton Fire Eater, 1 Forest Spirit, 2 Crimson Dragon, 5 Immolation, 2 Lava Golem, 1 Chrysaora, 5 Photon, 1 Fog Shield, 6 Precognition, Time Mark.
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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 55u 5c1 5f2 5f2 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5i5 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5og 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rr-Life/Light Rustler Rush: 8.280 ttw losses: 11 games: 50 - posted by hrmmm
10 Light Pillar, 6 Emerald Dragon, 6 Giant Frog, 6 Rustler, 2 Adrenaline, Life Mark.
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5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bv 5bv 5bv 5bv 5bv 5bv 5c7 5c7 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8-Mono-Earth Golem/Graboid Rush: 8.326 ttw losses: 4 games: 50 - posted by xKelevra
14 Stone Pillars, 6 Hematite Golem, 6 Graboid, 4 Shrieker, Time Mark.
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58q 58q 58q 58q 58q 58q 590 590 590 590 590 590 591 591 591 591-Antagon's PvP Graboid Rainbow (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7528.0.html): 8.337 ttw losses: 4 games: 200 - posted by hrmmm - updated by willng3
4 Quantum Pillar, 2 Lycanthrope, 6 Nova, 2 Arsenic, 2 Momentum, 5 Graboid, 2 Forest Spirit, 2 Deflagration, 1 Freeze, 2 Fog Shield, 2 Lightning, Earth Mark.
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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 52q 55q 55q 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5i7 5og 5og 61q 61q-Mono-Dark Gargoyle/Dragon Rush: 8.526 ttw losses: 2 games: 50 - posted by bluesky
11 Obsidian Pillars, 5 Black dragon, 6 Devourers, 6 Gargoyles, Dark Mark.
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5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uq 5uq 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv-Mono-Time Speed Dragon Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2418.0.html): 8.675 ttw losses: 10 games: 50 - posted by jmdt
16 Time Factory, 2 Golden Hourglass, 6 Devonian Dragon, 6 Precognition, Time Mark.
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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rl 5rl 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rr-Scrambled Shriekers (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9749.0.html): 9.833 ttw losses: 8 games: 50 - posted by jmdt
6 Nova, 4 Discord, 5 Stone Pillar, 6 Graboid, 4 Basilisk Blood, 1 Trident, 4 Flying Weapon, Entropy Mark.
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 590 590 590 590 590 590 595 595 595 595 5ic 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi-Death/Water Speed Poison (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,365.0.html): 10.390 ttw losses: 9 games: 50 - posted by jmdt
10 Bone Pillars, 6 Poison, 2 Arsenic, 6 Freeze, 6 Chrysaora, Water Mark.
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7-Mono-Water Essence's Water-Card AI3 Grinder (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2361.0.html): 10.950 ttw losses: 2 games: 50 - posted by bluesky
12 Sapphire Pillar, 4 Chrysaora, 6 Freeze, 2 Ice Shield, 6 Ice Dragon.
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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i9 5i9 5id 5id 5id 5id 5id 5id-Mono-Aether The Essential Halfblood Farmer (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3154.0.html): 11.222 ttw losses: 5 games: 50 - posted by bluesky
15 Aether Pillar, 5 Immortal, 4 Phase Dragon, 6 Dimensional Shield, Aether Mark.
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61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61s 61s 61s 61s 61s 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61v 61v 61v 61v
  Upgraded Decks: 

-Fire Lava Destroyer Rush Ver. 2 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11389.0.html): 5.400 ttw losses: 2 games: 200 - posted by hrmmm - updated by hrmmm
7 Burning Tower, 3 Crimson Dragon, 6 Cremation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 3 Minor Phoenix, 4 Ball Lightning, 1 Gavel, Earth Mark.
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5f2 5f2 5f2 6rl 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 809 809 809 809-My Balls Can Go BOOOOM!! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15069.0.html): 5.605 ttw losses: 5 EM: 16 games 200 - posted by PoLdeR - updated by willng3
4 Nova, 1 Gavel, 3 Chaos Power, 2 Elite Graboid, 1 Giant Frog, 5 Cremeation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 1 Improved Blessing, 1 Precognition, 6 Ball Lightning, Earth Mark.
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 6rl 6u2 6u2 6u2 77g 77g 7ae 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7jv 7qb 809 809 809 809 809 809-Colors Ablaze (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12878.0.html): 5.710 ttw losses: 2 EM: 22 games: 200 - posted by willng3 - updated by willng3
5 Nova, 1 Flesh Recluse, 1 Graviton Guard, 2 Elite Graboid, 1 Giant Frog, 6 Cremeation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 2 Minor Phoenix, 1 Vampire Dagger, 5 Ball Lightning, Earth Mark.
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 713 747 77g 77g 7ae 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7tb 809 809 809 809 809-Mono-Earth Shrieker Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,482.0.html): 5.830 ttw losses: 2 games: 200 - posted by Fragmentation - updated by hrmmm
17 Stone Tower, 6 Graboid, 6 Shrieker, 1 Long Sword, Time Mark
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6rk 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77h 77h 77h 77h 77h 77h-.......... And slightly faster! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13380.0.html): 5.904 ttw losses: 4 EM: 9 games: 200 -posed by PoLdeR - updated by hrmmm
1 Long Sword, 3 Werewolf, 6 Supernova, 6 Entropy Pendulum, 1 Flesh Recluse, 2 Graviton Guard, 1 Elite Graboid, 2 Giant Frog, 4 Lava Destroyer, 1 Abyss Crawler, 1 Elite Pegasus, 1 Precognition, 1 Phase Recluse, Fire Mark.
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6rk 6u1 6u1 6u1 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 713 747 747 77g 7ae 7ae 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7gm 7jr 7qb 80g-Mono-Earth Antlion/Shrieker Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,664.0.html): 5.920 ttw losses: 1 games: 200 - posted by trdgrh - updated by jmdt
14 Stone Tower, 6 Graboid, 6 Antlion, 3 Shriekers, 1 Long Sword, Time Mark.
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6rk 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 779 779 779 779 779 779 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77h 77h 77h-DEMA: Destroy 'EM All! V2.1 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12700.0.html): 5.933 ttw losses: 5 EM: 144 games: 200 - posted by jmdt - updated by Napalm
4 Nova, 2 Elite Graboid, 3 Improved Heal, 6 Cremeation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 1 Minor Phoenix, 2 Vampire Dagger, 6 Ball Lightning, Earth Mark.
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 77g 77g 7ai 7ai 7ai 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7tb 7tb 809 809 809 809 809 809-ImmoGavel (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9188.0.html): 5.954 ttw losses: 5 games: 200 - posted by kevkev60614 - updated by jmdt
6 Gavel, 6 Cremeation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 1 Minor Phoenix, 6 Ray of Light, 5 Animate Weapon, Earth Mark.
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6rl 6rl 6rl 6rl 6rl 6rl 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2-Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11757.0.html): 5.955 ttw losses: 1 games: 200 - posted by jmdt - updated by jmdt
5 Quantum Tower, 6 Supernova, 1 Werewolf, 1 Phase Recluse, 1 Unstable Gas, 1 Gargoyle, 2 Flesh Recluse, 2 Elite Graboid, 2 Minor Phoenix, 1 Elite Charger, 3 Giant Frog, 1 Morning Glory, 3 Precognition, 1 Abyss Crawler, Entropy Mark.
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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u1 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 713 713 745 77g 77g 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ds 7ds 7gm 7k1 7n6 7qb 7qb 7qb 7tf 80gBurning Phoenix (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11765.0.html): 5.960 ttw losses: 1 EM: 8 games: 200 - posted by WakSkylicker - updated by willng3
10 Burning Tower, 3 Ruby Dragon, 6 Cremeation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 5 Minor Phoenix, Earth Mark.
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7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7di 7di 7di 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds-Mono-Life Frogs, and Epi's, and Swords, Oh My!!! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11285.0.html): 5.965 ttw losses: 1 games: 200 - posted by jmdt - updated by jmdt
10 Emerald Tower, 2 Longsword, 6 Giant Frog, 6 Elite Cockatrice, 6 Ephinephrine, Life Mark.
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6rk 6rk 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7an 7an 7an 7an 7an 7an-Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11972.0.html): 6.168 ttw losses: 9 EM: 19 games: 200 - posted by jmdt - updated by jmdt
5 Entropy Pendulum, 1 Werewolf, 6 Supernova, 1 Flesh Recluse, 1 Gravition Guard, 1 Elite Graboid, 2 Giant Frog, 2 Minor Phoenix, 1 Abyss Crawler, 1 Improved Blessing, 1 Elite Wyrm, 6 Precognition, 1 Vampire Dagger, 1 Phase Recluse, Time Mark.
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6u1 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 713 747 77g 7ae 7ae 7ds 7ds 7gm 7jv 7mu 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7tb 80g-Mono-Death Recluse/Poison/Dragon Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10074.0.html): 6.325 ttw losses: 0 games: 200 - posted by ratchetspyro94 - updated by jmdt
11 Bone Tower, 2 Ivory Dragon, 6 Flesh Recluse, 6 Deadly Poison, 1 Arsenic, 4 Elite Mummy, Death Mark.
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710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 711 711 713 713 713 713 713 713 718 718 718 718 718 718 71a 71d 71d 71d 71d-Life/Aether Frogtal (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3949.0.html): 6.565 ttw losses: 7 games: 200 - posted by jmdt
14 Emerald Tower, 6 Giant Frog, 6 Aether tower, 4 Fractal, Aether mark
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7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i-Mono-Light Crusade of the Pegasi! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5823.0.html): 6.572 ttw losses: 6 games: 200 - posted by crimsonflippa - updated by jmdt
14 Light Tower, 5 Elite Pegasus, 2 Archangel, 2 Improved Blessing, 1 Mirror Shield, 1 Morning Glory, 1 Improved Miracle, Air Mark.
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7jv 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7jr 7ju 7ju 7jv 7jv 7jv 7jv 7jv 7k1 7k2-Puppychow's Order in the Court (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1627.0.html): 6.578 ttw losses: 6 games: 50 - posted by xKelevra
6 Nova, 6 Gavel, 5 Unstoppable, 1 Basilisk Blood, 2 Explosion, 2 Congeal, 5 Animate Weapon, 1 Rewind, 2 Thunderbolt, Gravity Mark.
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 6rl 6rl 6rl 6rl 6rl 6rl 74a 74a 74a 74a 74a 77l 7dm 7dm 7gn 7gn 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 7q4 80a 80a-Deja Vu Adrenaline Speedbow (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6177.0.html): 6.591 ttw losses: 6 games: 50 - posted by hrmmm
6 Amethyst Tower, 6 Supernova, 3 Unstoppable, 6 Ephinephrine, 1 Antlion, 1 Brimstone Eater, 2 Physalia, 1 Damsel Fly, 3 Elite Deja Vu, 1 BloodSucker, Life Mark.
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58p 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 74a 74a 74a 7an 7an 7an 7an 7an 7an 7dh 7gl 7gl 7mt 7q1 7q1 7q1 7t7-xKelevra's Speed Rainbow (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5778.0.html): 6.804 ttw losses: 1 games: 200 - posted by xKelevra - updated by jmdt
6 Quantum Tower, 6 Supernova, 1 Phase Recluse, 3 Shockwaves, 1 Improved Steal, 2 Flesh Recluse, 2 Elite Graboid, 1 Werewolf, 1 Lava Destroyer, 2 Explosions, 1 Elite Charger, 1 Giant Frog, 1 Forest Spectre, 1 Morning Glory, 1 Abyss Crawler, Entropy Mark.
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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u1 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 713 713 745 77g 77g 7ae 7ah 7dm 7dm 7dq 7gm 7k1 7n7 7n7 7n7 7t9 80g-Darkness/Death Eclipse Rush: 6.810 ttw losses: 2 games: 50 - posted by jmdt
4 Bone Tower, 6 Flesh Recluse, 10 Obsidian Tower, 3 Eclipse, 1 Vampire Dagger, 6 Gargoyle, Death Mark.
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710 710 710 710 713 713 713 713 713 713 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7t4 7ta 7ta 7ta 7tb 7tf 7tf 7tf 7tf 7tf 7tf-Vreely's 27 card fire rush T50 killer (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3874.0.html): 6.920 ttw losses: 19 games: 200 - posted by xKelevra - updated by hrmmm
4 Burning Tower, 2 Ruby Dragon, 6 Cremation, 4 Lava Destroyer, 3 Explosions, 1 Unstoppable, 6 Ray of Light, 3 Precognition, 1 Thunderbolt, Earth Mark.
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74a 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7di 7di 7dm 7dm 7dm 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7qb 7qb 7qb 80a-Mono-Entropy Anti-Rush: 6.977 ttw losses: 2 games: 50 - posted by xKelevra
14 Amethyst Tower, 2 Micro Abomination, 6 Amethyst Dragons, 6 Antimatter, 2 Butterfly Effect, 2 Mutation, 1 Purple Nymph, Entropy Mark.
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4vk 4vk 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6tu 6tu 6tv 6tv 6tv 6tv 6tv 6tv 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u8 6u8 6ug-Fire/Aether Fractal Phoenix (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8764.0.html): 7.000 ttw losses: 4 games: 50 - posted by jmdt
6 Burning Tower, 3 Explosion, 6 Cremation, 5 Minor Phoenix, 6 Aether Tower, 4 Fractal, Aether Mark.
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7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dm 7dm 7dm 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i-Mummy...Get A Life!!! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12849.0.html): 7.128 ttw losses: 6 EM: 117 games: 200 - posted by jmdt - updated by jmdt
11 Bone Tower, 2 Long Sword, 6 Flesh Recluse, 6 Elite Mummy, 5 Improved Heal, Life Mark.
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6rk 6rk 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 713 713 713 713 713 713 71d 71d 71d 71d 71d 71d 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai-Mono-Life Ultimate Speed EM Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10563.0.html): 7.135 ttw losses: 4 EM: 153 games: 200 - Posted by xKelevra - updated by willng3
10 Emerald Tower, 2 Long Sword, 6 Giant Frog, 6 Elite Cockatrice, 6 Improved Heal, Life Mark.
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6rk 6rk 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai-Water/Aether Fractal Abyss Crawler: 7.250 ttw losses: 1 games: 50 - posted by bluesky
15 Sapphire Tower, 6 Abyss Crawler, 5 Aether Tower, 4 Fractal, Aether Mark.
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7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gm 7gm 7gm 7gm 7gm 7gm 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i-Mono-Water Estava's Water Damage Dealing Deck (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7077.0.html): 7.400 ttw losses: 0 games: 50 - posted by xKelevra
14 Sapphire Tower, 6 Abyss Crawler, 6 Ice Lance, 4 Arctic Dragon, 1 Permafrost Shield, Water Mark.
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7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gm 7gm 7gm 7gm 7gm 7gm 7go 7go 7go 7go 7go 7go 7gp 7gt 7gt 7gt 7gt-Death/Water Speed Poison: 7.450 ttw losses: 2 games: 50 - posted by bluesky
9 Bone Tower, 2 Flesh Recluse, 6 Physalia, 6 Deadly Poison, 1 Arsenic, 6 Congeal, Water Mark
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710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 713 713 718 718 718 718 718 718 71a 7gl 7gl 7gl 7gl 7gl 7gl 7gn 7gn 7gn 7gn 7gn 7gn-Rainbow Buffed Wyrm Rush: 7.625 losses 2 games: 50 - posted by RavingRabbid - updated by jmdt
6 Quantum Tower, 5 Chaos Power, 5 Supernova, 3 Rage Elixer, 5 Improved Blessing, 3 Elite Wyrm, 3 Electrum Hourglass, Entropy Mark.
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5 Quantum Tower, 6 Supernova, 2 Flesh Recluse, 1 Elite Charger, 2 Elite Graboid, 3 Improved Heal, 2 Minor Phoenix, 1 Abyss Crawler, 1 Improved Fog, 1 Unstable Gas, 3 Precognition, 1 Vampire Dagger, 1 Vampire, 1 Phase Recluse, Entropy Mark.
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1 Long Sword, 5 Improved Heal, 8 Burning Tower, 5 Cremeation, 3 Crimson Dragon, 2 Lava Destroyers, 6 Minor Phoenix, Life Mark.
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5f2 5f2 5f2 6rk 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds-Gravity/Aether Fractal Chargers (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5396.0.html): 8.149 ttw losses: 3 games: 50 - posted by jmdt
9 Gravity Tower, 6 Elite Charger, 7 Aether Tower, 4 Phase Shield, 4 Fractal, Gravity Mark.
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744 744 744 744 744 744 744 744 744 745 745 745 745 745 745 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80d 80d 80d 80d 80i 80i 80i 80i-Totally Upgraded AI3 Mastery Despoiler (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11412.0.html): 8.430 ttw losses: 0 EM: 61 games: 100
9 Obsidian Tower, 6 Pest, 1 Improved Dusk, 2 Eclipse, 1 Vampire Dagger, 6 Vampire, 5 Gargoyle, Darkness Mark.
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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg102907#msg102907
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2010, 04:26:49 pm »
Just going to throw this out; ttw is turns to win

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg102922#msg102922
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2010, 04:40:10 pm »
I can contribute stats for shrieker rush (no heal) after having played 100 games: 5.60 ttw
16 Tower, 3 Long Sword, 6 Graboid, 5 Shrieker, Time Mark.
I also found out that going first or second makes a pretty big difference; the deck is almost a turn faster on the draw. In my sample I was otd 56/100 times.
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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg102968#msg102968
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2010, 05:47:44 pm »
<3 fractal chargers, but h8 that top50 is unaccesible for the time being, so I can't farm for more shards of readiness D:< (I only have 2 so far).

It's simply extremely difficult to deal with 5 7|5 creatures with momentum. Even with two rains of fire, the next turn I just play the ones I held in my hand, and there's another 3-4. Impersonating Gemini's strategy is so much fun :D

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg102999#msg102999
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2010, 06:19:42 pm »
Yeah I love fractal chargers too. I use one less aether tower, 1 less fractal, and 2 more gravity towers though. I find that I am almost never limited by not having the fractal (bc if I dont it means I have more chargers or other useful cards) or aether, but having more gravity towers makes me win much faster since that is the primary need. Its not really a "rush" deck so much as a charge deck though imo. It has shields which most rush decks dont, and it doesnt play a ton first turn. Its more designed to be almost unstoppable and thus have a high win percentage, while still wiinning pretty fast.

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg103006#msg103006
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2010, 06:29:33 pm »
did u take losses into account or did u just count the winning games?

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg103018#msg103018
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2010, 06:39:45 pm »
It would also be appreciative if you would write some statistics for unupgraded speed decks, which is what most people farming AI3 would use. Upgraded decks usually tackle T50.  :)) Sue me if I'm wrong.

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg103020#msg103020
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2010, 06:42:24 pm »
It would also be appreciative if you would write some statistics for unupgraded speed decks, which is what most people farming AI3 would use. Upgraded decks usually tackle T50.  :)) Sue me if I'm wrong.
Yeah we've been taking about that.  What unupped decks would you like me to look at?

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg103024#msg103024
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2010, 06:43:40 pm »
did u take losses into account or did u just count the winning games?

I didn't take loses into account, although there weren't that many either.  I updated the op to include both both ttw and number of loses.

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg103037#msg103037
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 07:01:43 pm »
thanks great job, i'd love to test my speedbow against AI3, i tested it only against T50

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg103044#msg103044
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 07:03:15 pm »
thanks great job, i'd love to test my speedbow against AI3, i tested it only against T50
please do and post the deck and stats.

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg103057#msg103057
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 07:12:17 pm »
here some stats for a fire lava destroyer rush

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average ttw: 5.74 (50 games)
loses: 1 (stupid eternity/shrieker)
em: 1





 

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