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Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg144641#msg144641
« on: August 23, 2010, 05:16:38 am »
Well as you guys and gals know by now, I'm all about making decks as fast as possible.  My next target is revisiting a speedbow I made a long time ago.  I thought...how fast can I make this deck if I remove all the CC and PC.  My basic premise in designing the deck was limiting each quanta to 6 or less total usage, and fitting in as many high damage, low cost critters as possible.  After a bit of testing I came up with this as my optimum build.  It is lighting fast and quite fun to play.

So after testing versus AI3, it has a ttw of 5.955 and 1 loss in 200 games.

Let me know what you guys think.  If you would like a more healing/control oriented build for AI3 or T50 check out the The Healbow - Rainbow Healing at its Finest (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11831.0.html)


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Re: Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg144647#msg144647
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2010, 05:30:26 am »
Awaiting the TTW on this, but I am a bit dubious of it as an archetype. If it can't match the TTW of consistent killers (mono life, etc), then isn't it really just going speedbow to go speedbow? What does this deck offer, aside from being easy to build if you already have upped supers and quantum towers (instead of worrying about upping an entirely new quanta set for say, mono life and destroyer rush)?

(Note: I'm not being presumptuous about whether or not it is THAT fast or not, I'm simply asking what it offers)

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Re: Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg144656#msg144656
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2010, 05:49:03 am »
Looks like it should be lightning fast and I already have nearly every card upgraded so I'll give it a try later :P. My only thought would be to replace the werewolf with more more precog, but thats partially just because I hate having them in deck bc it seems like I always have to make a decision whether to play one or not when I'm at 2 entropy quanta, and if I play next turn I get a snova and would be able to play other creatures but I have 1 entropy :P.

Edit: Lol first game with this deck... I misclicked and did FG. Got within one turn of outrushing Rainbow though... this deck's pretty quick :P.
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Re: Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg144663#msg144663
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2010, 06:13:28 am »
These can be trouble for most of your beaters

That's why I've found this SpeedBow to be my favorite, but that is still inferior to "Ultimate Speed EM Life Rush"
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Re: Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg144671#msg144671
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2010, 06:51:45 am »
I played 25 games just to see roughly how fast this deck would be.  I got a preliminary ttw of 5.88 which would put it just behind a shrieker rush for 5th on the current list.  Obviously it will change with more testing.  Stay tuned.

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Re: Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg144674#msg144674
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2010, 06:56:53 am »
I played 25 games just to see roughly how fast this deck would be.  I got a preliminary ttw of 5.88 which would put it just behind a shrieker rush for 5th on the current list.  Obviously it will change with more testing.  Stay tuned.
I was grinding t50s with my slightly upgraded fire/light rush (only 4 cremations upgraded, and fahrenheit instead of hammer, because it's better non-upped), and I encountered your deck.

Unfortunately, my opener was 4 photons and 4 cremations, so I wound up with 36 fire quanta, and proceeded to draw deflags and pillars, and no creatures, so I couldn't really test its mettle.

Your deck seemed fast, but its opening burst is not incredibly fearsome, nor does it seem as resilient (rain of fire seems terrible for many of your starting hands) as some other styles of speedbow. That said, I'm kind of digging the build. Keep at it jmdt :D

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Re: Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg144886#msg144886
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2010, 04:01:28 pm »
I am going to try this out and comment back on my findings.

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Re: Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg145181#msg145181
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2010, 12:09:53 am »
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Re: Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg145192#msg145192
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2010, 12:28:44 am »
Ill make it  ;D

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Re: Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg145194#msg145194
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2010, 12:33:33 am »
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Yes, this thing outrushes Rainbow. I tried it out and managed to do it. Its amazing how fast it can be.
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Re: Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg145305#msg145305
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2010, 03:09:15 am »
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Yes, this thing outrushes Rainbow. I tried it out and managed to do it. Its amazing how fast it can be.
Who said rush decks can't kill fg's.  We have a new fg killer on our hands, lol. 

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Re: Da Fastest Speedbow Eva! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg145405#msg145405
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2010, 08:45:08 am »
So after getting up to 150 tests, the ttw is 5.939.  That would make this build faster than a life rush if the speed holds over the next 50 games.  I never believed the deck would end up this fast when I was building it.

 

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