Round 1 - Main Topic

[Avenger]

Gen. Deuce vs. Helston (Strategist)

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Aether6 (Lt. Avenger) vs.  Dm1321 (Salvager)

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5la 5la 5li 5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61u 622 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 8pu

Aether3 (Sc. EvaRia) vs.  jippy99 (strategist)

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58o 58o 592 592 592 592 592 592 594 594 594 594 594 594 5aa 5aa 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 77b 77b 8pm

Aether4 (Sa. The_Mormegil) vs. Hyroen (Lieutenant)

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5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5uq 5ut 5ut 61o 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7ta 7td 8pt

Aether5 (A. hainkarga) vs.  dragonsdemesne (Assassin)

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5li 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 808 81q 8pq

Aether2 (St. Pikachufan) vs. Bripod (Lieutenant)

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[Avenger]

Check this out for some glimpse on the tech we used last war in team earth: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkF0HC356d6IdFpQRzNmZm9rQUpzcWFDVm9iNUlnZmc

1. We had a database of decks that were used vs. earth in previous wars.
2. we had another list of decks that worked BEST against a particular element
3. Each round, we selected 4-5 buildable decks from our vault, and 4-5 probable decks of our opponent.

Every player was required to test play all the proposed decks vs. all of his/her opponent's decks. 2x5 games were played vs AI. First we played our proposed deck vs predicted opponent deck of AI. Then vice versa.
If some proposed deck was unable to beat the AI it was likely discarded. If we couldn't beat a proposed deck by any of the predicted decks, then it was likely selected. Vault constraints had to be considered as well.

If we had time, we also played other teammates decks for three reasons. 1. larger sample. 2. if the results were widely diverse, we could suggest some change in playstyle. 3. to see if our teammate actually has any chance.

After each round we used another method, but i will go into details only if this team wants to go through this

[hainkarga]

You are right, i think it will be better if you open these topics as strategist starting froum round #2.

[deuce22]

I like this idea. If we have time to do it, awesome. If not, we will make things work without it.

[hainkarga]

I can do some of the tests.

[The_Mormegil]

I can test some decks too.

[hainkarga]

I locked my topic so we can use this one instead.

Since we are blind @R1, I'm compiling first 3 round decks (and maybe some of the 4th) used by opponents on war#4. So we can attempt to predict.
After air, I have decided to compile only the decks used against us. Makes more sense than huge chunks of data.

Starting with air (win / loss is from air's perspective):

Spoiler for These are all the air decks used against aether:

won 3-2 vs flying titans

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won 2-0 vs fire spirit duo

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5of 5of 5og 5og 5ol 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up 5uq 5ur 5uu 5uu 5uu

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lost 2-1 vs MA

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5f6 5f6 5f6 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5of 5of 5of 5of 5of 5og 5og 5og 5ol 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5op

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lost 2-1 vs bonebolt

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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52r 52r 52r 52r 52r 52r 5of 5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu

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won 2-1 vs fractix

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55s 55s 55s 55s 55s 55s 55t 55t 55t 55t 55t 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5ol 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu

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won 2-1 vs MA

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4vj 4vj 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5od 5od 5of 5og 5ol 5ol 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu

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won 3-2 vs devtal

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4vd 4vd 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vo 5od 5of 5of 5on 5oo 5oo 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 6tv 6u7 6u9 8pj

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Spoiler for Decks in first 3 round matches of air in war#4:

WON 3-2
R1 vs aether (titan)

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won 3-1
R1 vs light

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won 3-1
R2 vs light

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5la 5la 5lk 5lk 5lk 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 61o 61o 61u 622 622 63a 63a 80i 80i 80i 8pu

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won 3-1
R2 vs death

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 55q 590 590 590 590 5f6 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5of 5of 5of 5ol 5ol 5oo 5oo 5oo 7gq 7gq 7gq 8pm

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won 3-2
R2 vs time
5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5of 5of 5of 5og 5ol 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up 7td 7td 7td 7td 7td 7td 8pt
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lost 3-2
R2 vs entropy

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52g 52j 52j 52j 52j 52j 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 5on 5on 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 718 718 718 8pk

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lost 3-0
R2 vs water

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lost 3-0
R2 vs earth

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5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5od 5od 5od 5od 5od 5od 5of 5of 5of 5og 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7mv 7mv 7mv 7n5 8ps

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lost 3-0
R2 vs life

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lost for illegal deck
R3 vs life

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lost 3-2
R3 vs earth

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5lk 5lk 5lk 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 61o 61o 63a 63a 7jq 7jq 7ms 7oe 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 8pu

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won 3-0
R3 vs light
4vc 4vc 4vd 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vo 4vo 50u 50u 5oc 5oc 5oc 5od 5od 5og 5oi 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 6tv 6u7 6u7 7mv 7mv 7n5 8pj
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lost 3-1
R3 vs entropy

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lost 3-2
R3 vs time

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5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5of 5of 5of 5og 5og 5oi 5oi 5ol 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ro 5ro 7mu 7mu 7mu 8ps

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lost 3-0
R3 vs fire

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lost 3-1
R3 vs darkness

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lost 3-0
R3 vs gravity

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* Air remarks *
- We played against air 7 times. In 5 out of 7 times they had pc. When they didn't have PC, they had poisons or momentum. So they were like "i ain't taking any shit from DS". I would strongly expect PC from them.

Team air:
won 3-2 vs flying titans
won 2-0 vs fire spirit duo
lost 2-1 vs MA
lost 2-1 vs bonebolt
won 2-1 vs fractix
won 2-1 vs MA
won 3-2 vs devtal

[hainkarga]

So many matches!

Spoiler for death's first 10 rounds against aether:

lost 2-0

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won 2-0

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52g 52g 52g 52j 52j 52j 52p 52p 52p 52p 52q 52q 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622

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won 3-0

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52p 52p 52r 52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 5up 5up 5v1 5v1 7ta 7tb 7tb 8pt

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lost 2-0

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52l 52q 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 590 590 590 590 593 593 593 593 5f6 5f6

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lost 2-0

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lost 3-1

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52r 52r 52r 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 55s 55s 55s 55s 561 561 562 7n2 7n2 7n2 8pl

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won 2-0

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4vl 4vl 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 55k 55k 55k 55k 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 6u5 6u5 744

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lost 2-0

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52h 52h 52p 52p 52q 52r 52r 542 542 542 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55s

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lost 2-0

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won 2-0

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52p 52p 52q 52q 52t 52t 52t 52t 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uo 5uo 5up 5up

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won 2-0

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won 2-0

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52j 52j 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 5uo 5uo 5up 5up 5up 5up 8pt

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won 2-0

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52q 52q 52r 52r 52t 542 542 542 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5up 5up 5uq 606

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won 3-1

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52g 52g 52l 52l 52l 52p 52p 52p 52p 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 593 593 593 593 593 593 594 594 594 594 594 594 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 719 77c 77c 8pm

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lost 2-0

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lost 2-0

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won 3-1

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won 2-1

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won 2-0

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won 2-1

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52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 61o 61o 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 63a 713 713 71d 8pu

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lost 2-0

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52p 52q 52r 52r 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 5f6 5f6 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 71a 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 8po

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* Death Remarks *
- We played against these fella 21 times!

7 of their decks were poison oriented. I'm not counting random arsenic or poison splashed for fun in other decks.
They:
Lost against MA with purify + flayer
Lost against devtal
Lost against devtal again
Lost against devtal 3rd time

Won against flying PU titans
Won against grabbow
Won against PU phoenix

Apparently devtal beats the hell out of poison since vampires heal more than poison damage.

The 14 non-poison decks
They:
Won against flying titans
Won against MA with holy light
Lost against almost MA with purify+flayer
Lost against almost MA with purify+flayer
Won against phase dragons + immortals + purify + flayer
Won against spider + wings

Won against fractix
Lost against fractix
Won against fractix

Lost against devtal
Won against devtal
Lost against devtal

Won against grabbow
Lost against grabbow


- We clearly overused fractix and devtal against them. Devtal won 5/6 of the time with or without poisons. Phoenixes were kindda bad, so was grabbow.
- If i were them, i would prepare against devtal. So i would come with a counter against it. Thats what we should expect from death. Tho devtal is a thing that can brute force its way through.

[hainkarga]

Spoiler for All decks used against aether for 10 rounds in all wars. Won / Loss is from time's perspective:

Won 3-1 vs bonebolt

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 5ia 5ia 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rn 5rs 5rs 5ru 5ru 5v1 5v1 7dm 7dm 7qk 8pj

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Lost 2-1 vs bonebolt

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55m 55m 55m 55m 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 562 562 5ro 5ro 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2

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won 2-0 vs devtal

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5rj 5rm 5ro 5rs 5rs 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up 5up 5up 5ur

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lost 2-0 vs bonebolt

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590 590 590 590 590 590 593 593 593 593 593 593 5rj 5rj 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rr 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2

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won 2-0 vs fractix

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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52p 52p 52p 52p 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2

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won 2-0 vs MA with holy lights+miracle

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5f6 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rj 5rj 5rl 5rl

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lost 2-0 vs devtal

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5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5li 5li 5rj 5rj 5ro 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2

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won 3-2 vs grabbow

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lost 2-0 vs grabbow

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lost 2-0 vs poison + fractal physalia

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lost 3-0 vs MA

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lost 2-0 vs bonebolt

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lost 2-1 vs [poison + flying arsenics + DS]

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lost 3-2 vs devtal

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lost 2-0 vs devtal

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won 3-1 vs fractix

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won 3-0 vs bonebolt (sideboard event card match)

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lost 2-1 vs MA

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lost 2-0 vs MA

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* Time remarks*
- We did 19 matches vs time

won vs bonebolt
lost vs bonebolt
lost vs bonebolt
lost vs bonebolt
won vs bonebolt

won vs devtal
lost vs devtal
lost vs devtal
lost vs devtal

won vs fractix
won vs fractix

won vs grabbow
lost vs grabbow

lost vs poison
lost vs poison

lost vs MA
lost vs MA
won vs MA with holy light + miracle
lost vs MA

- Devtal, poison and MA decks appear to have worked good against time. bonebolt is 2loss 3win in our favor and fractix has failed so far.
- 10men is a fan of nova decks but he has only 6 this war.
- We don't have poisons, and devtal better go against death. So, Bonebolt is okay against too but i guess MA is a good choice. We can test some of our other decks too, one of them PU dragon decks.

[hainkarga]

Spoiler for entropy's first 10 rounds against aether::

won 3-2 vs bonebolt

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won 2-0 vs poison (nova, poison chrys, arse)

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lost 2-1 vs immo-phoenix

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won 3-0 vs bonebolt

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lost 2-0 vs MA with panda

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won 2-0 vs an odd water duo

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won by default vs illegal deck

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lost 2-1 vs grabbow

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won 2-0 vs some odd aether rainbow

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lost vs grabbow 3-1

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lost 2-0 vs rainbowish bonebolt

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lost 3-0 vs bonebolt
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won 2-1 vs (36 card) bonebolt

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won by default vs illegal deck

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lost 3-0 vs grabbow

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lost 2-0 vs grabbow

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lost 3-2 vs fully upped MA

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lost 2-0 vs grabbow

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lost 2-0 vs bonebolt

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lost 2-1 vs grabbow

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won 2-1 vs some terrible deck

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won 2-1 vs firestall duo

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* Entropy remarks *
- Aether did 22 matches against entropy. But few of them forfeits, illegal decks or desperate decks.

Team entropy has:

Group 1
won vs bonebolt
won vs bonebolt
lost vs bonebolt
lost vs rainbowish bonebolt
lost vs bonebolt
won vs bonebolt

Group 2
lost vs grabbow
lost vs grabbow
lost vs grabbow
lost vs grabbow
lost vs grabbow
lost vs grabbow

Group 3
won vs poison
won vs firestall
lost vs immo phoenix

Group 4
lost vs MA+Panda
won vs odd water duo
*illegal*
*illegal*
won vs odd rainbow
lost vs fully upped MA (3 up vs 30 up. i consider this lost)
won vs shity deck


- Except for 1 instance, they did either of the following:
- Use deckout
- Use PC
- Use momentum
- Use poison

In vast majority of these decks, they had PC. Like air, they have been very sensitive about this. They appear to focus on getting around DS.

- Most of the time aether either used grabbow or bonebolt. Grabbow appears to have been kicking entropy in the nuts since the beginning of time!
- If i were entropy i would be waiting these two decks. Entropy would expect grabbow from us and bring a counter. And we might bring a different deck because we would suspect they would bring a grabbow counter, but they could have guessed that too :p
This mindgate process goes infinity. But ye, grabbow.

[hainkarga]

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lost 2-0 vs devtal

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lost 3-2 vs bonebolt

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lost 2-0 vs PU flying OE

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won 2-1 vs devtal

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lost 2-1 vs devtal

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lost 2-0 vs devtal

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lost 3-0 vs grabbow

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lost 2-0 vs devtal

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lost 2-0 vs panda + wings

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won 2-1 vs devtal

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- This is noticable, they never used deflag against us, not even in their fire duo. No BE in their entropy duo either.

They either tried to swarm, deckout, bolt to death or poison. It appears to me willng does not care about our DS as much as other masters do. So i say we just use them DS against life.

- Aether kept using devtal against them. 6 out of 10 matches. Although it was okay, i can't say it was very reliable. 4 vs 2 isn't much and they will probably expect that.

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lost 2-1 vs devtal
lost 2-0 vs devtal
lost 2-0 vs devtal
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lost 3-2 vs bonebolt
lost 2-0 vs PU flying OE
lost 3-0 vs grabbow
lost 2-0 vs panda + wings

[hainkarga]