[OUTDATED - v1.26] turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26)

[jmdt]

Nice to see so much people running new tests.

But i think we need a guideline for testing decks and posting here, to keep stuff in order and make it easier to gather all the information we get here.

How to take statisics for a deck vs. ai3:

- Get approval from an official tester before examining a deck.
- Every game needs to be played untill the end. Skipping or abort bad looking games is not allowed.
- Every game need to be played the best you can. You should try to win every game, even if it looks like a loss.
- Every deck should be played as fast (in turns) as you can.
- Please dont post statistics for decks you designed/posted by yourself. Any statistic will be more trustworthy, if its been tested from a "neutral" player.
- Lost games dont count for average ttw. -> Avg ttw =summation of turns/amount of won games
- Our goal is 200 tested games for every deck.


- Please Post your Statistics in this form:

Linked Deckname (http://Deckpost):
Games: 50, Avg. ttw: 7.000 ttw, Avg. Time: 70 sec/game, Losses: 1, EM: 1 - posted by  -
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ttw 16:[/spoiler]Thanks for testing, and hf

[jmdt]

Unupgraded Decks:
-Ubah Stompy (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14020.0.html):  Games: 200, Avg. TTW: 6.810, Avg. Time: 76.095 sec/game, Losses: 26, EM: 10 - Posted by willng3
1 Lycanthrope, 4 Nova, 1 Arsenic, 1 Graviton Fire Eater, 1 Forest Spirit, 3 Fire Spirit, 6 Immolation, 6 Lava Golem, 6 Photon, 1 Precognition, Fire Mark.

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1 Lycanthrope, 4 Nova, 1 Arsenic, 5 Graboid, 1 Forest Spirit, 6 Immolation, 6 Phoenix, 6 Photon, Earth Mark.

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2 Lycanthrope, 6 Nova, 1 Arsenic, 2 Fire Spirit, 1 Deflagration, 6 Immolation, 6 Lava Golem, 1 Rage Potion, 6 Photon, Fire Mark.

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12 Emerald Pillar, 6 Horned Frog, 6 Cockatrice, 6 Adrenaline, Life Mark.

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Games: 200, Avg. TTW: 8.090, Avg. Time: 78.355 sec/game, Losses: 23, EM: 10 - Posted by Thenewguy
1 Short Sword, 17 Stone Pillar, 6 Graboid, 6 Shrieker, Time Mark.

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4 Quantum Pillar, 2 Lycanthrope, 6 Nova, 2 Arsenic, 2 Momentum, 5 Graboid, 2 Forest Spirit, 2 Deflagration, 1 Freeze, 2 Fog Shield, 2 Lightning, Earth Mark.

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Games:  50, Avg. TTW: 9.680, Avg. Time: 94.540 sec/game, Losses: 2, EM: 2 - Posted by Thenewguy
2 Quantum Pillar, 2 Lycanthrope, 6 Nova, 6 Poison, 2 Arsenic, 2 Horned Frog, 2 Deflagration, 2 Chrysaora, 2 Fog Shield, 2 Sundial, 2 Lightning, Death Mark.

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[jmdt]

Upgraded Decks:
-My Balls can go BOOOOM!! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15069.0.html):
Games: 200, Avg. TTW: 5.634, Avg. Time: 61.605 sec/game, Losses: 6, EM: 17 - Posted by GirlsGeneration - Updated by willng3
4 Nova, 1 Gavel, 3 Chaos Power, 2 Elite Graboid, 1 Giant Frog, 5 Cremation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 1 Improved Blessing, 1 Precognition (Upgraded), 6 Ball Lightning, Earth Mark.

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3 Crimson Dragon, 1 Gavel, 7 Burning Tower, 6 Cremation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 3 Minor Phoenix, 4 Ball Lightning, Earth Mark.

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2 Long Sword, 6 Chaos Power, 10 Wind Tower, 6 Damselfly, 6 Elite Wyrm, Entropy Mark.

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5 Quantum Tower, 6 Supernova, 1 Werewolf, 1 Phase Recluse, 1 Unstable Gas, 1 Gargoyle, 2 Flesh Recluse, 2 Elite Graboid, 2 Minor Phoenix, 1 Elite Charger, 3 Giant Frog, 1 Morning Glory, 3 Precognition, 1 Abyss Crawler, Entropy Mark.

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Games: 200, Avg. TTW: 6.084, Avg. Time: 61.34 sec/game, Losses: 9, EM: 20 - Posted by  kevkev60614
6 Gavel, 6 Cremation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 1 Minor Phoenix, 6 Ray of Light, 5 Animate Weapon, Earth Mark

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1 Long Sword, 2 Werewolf, 6 Supernova, 6 Entropy Pendulum, 1 Flesh Recluse, 2 Graviton Guard, 1 Elite Graboid, 2 Giant Frog, 4 Lava Destroyer, 1 Abyss Crawler, 1 Elite Pegasus, 2 Precognition (Upgraded), 1 Phase Recluse, Fire Mark.

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5 Nova, 1 Flesh Recluse, 2 Elite Graboid, 1 Giant Frog, 6 Cremation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 2 Minor Phoenix, 1 Precognition (Upgraded), 1 Vampire Dagger, 5 Ball Lightning, Earth Mark.

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2 Gavel, 15 Stone Tower, 6 Elite Antlion, 6 Steel Golem, 1 Basalt Dragon, Earth Mark.

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6rl 6rl 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 779 779 779 779 779 779 77a 77a 77a 77a 77a 77a 77b-Mono-Death Recluse/Poison/Dragon Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10074.0.html):  Games:  200, Avg. TTW: 6.535, Losses: 1, EM: 14 - Posted by Higurashi
11 Bone Tower, 2 Ivory Dragon, 6 Flesh Recluse, 6 Deadly Poison, 1 Arsenic (Upgraded), 4 Elite Mummy, Death Mark.

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1 Emerald Tower, 3 Improved Heal, 6 Epinephrine, 1 Life Pendulum, 3 Wind Tower, 6 Damselfly, 6 Elite Wyrm, 4 Air Pendulum, Life Mark.

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4 Nova, 2 Elite Graboid, 3 Improved Heal, 6 Cremeation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 1 Minor Phoenix, 2 Vampire Dagger, 6 Ball Lightning, Earth Mark.

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8 Emerald Tower, 6 Giant Frog, 4 Fractal (Upgraded), 12 Life Pendulum, Aether Mark.

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10 Emerald Tower, 2 Long Sword, 6 Giant Frog, 6 Elite Cockatrice, 6 Improved Heal, Life Mark.

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8 Light Tower, 2 Light Pendulum, 4 Improved Blessing, 6 Crusader (Upgraded), 5 Animate Weapon, 5 Vampire Dagger, Darkness Mark

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5 Quantum Tower, 6 Supernova, 2 Flesh Recluse, 1 Elite Charger, 2 Elite Graboid, 3 Improved Heal, 1 Explosion, 2 Minor Phoenix, 1 Abyss Crawler, 1 Improved Fog, 1 Unstable Gas (Upgraded), 2 Precognition (Upgraded), 1 Vampire Dagger, 1 Vampire, 1 Phase Recluse, Entropy Mark.

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5 Obsidian Tower, 6 Pest, 1 Improved Dusk, 2 Eclipse, 1 Vampire Dagger, 6 Vampire, 5 Gargoyle (Upgraded), 4 Dark Pendulum, Darkness Mark.

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[EvaRia]

It does indeed.

[thatnewguy]

Time to rerecord all stats for 1.26 :p

[RavingRabbid]

Looks like my proposal had approvation.

[xdude]

I could take the Light Pegasus rush, if you don't mind.
So far it's hovering around 6.2-6.3 ttw, but it's only 20 games.

I'd understand if you wouldn't want to take stats from the author though. (just saying this 'cause there are lots of deck in need to be tested and War's over for me... I'm getting bored)

[Higurashi]

I'm running V2 anyway, so I can post stats when I've reached some numbers.

[thatnewguy]

I could run some speedbows and any unupped grinder if you need it

Da Fastest Speedbow Eva by jmdt
Cards: 5 Quantum Tower, 6 Supernova, 1 Werewolf, 1 Phase Recluse, 1 Unstable Gas, 1 Gargoyle, 2 Flesh Recluse, 2 Elite Graboid, 2 Minor Phoenix, 1 Elite Charger, 3 Giant Frog, 1 Morning Glory, 3 Precognition, 1 Abyss Crawler, Entropy Mark.

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STATS:
EM %: 6%
Win/lose %: 98%
Average TTW: 6.02
Time per game: 62.92 seconds
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Seems a bit slower, but not by much. The aether stall really hurts this study. Will continue onto 200 games.

[lukce]

Headache For The Elders (v2.0, upped) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16764.msg228812#msg228812):
Games: 100, Avg. ttw: 5,580 ttw, Avg. Time: ** sec/game, Losses: 0 , EM: 6 - posted by  -lukce
List of cards: 4 Novas, 1 Gavel, 2 Unstoppables, 2 Graboids, 1 Giant Frog, 2 Explosions, 6 Cremations, 6 Lava Golems, 1 Minor Phoenix, 5 Ball Lightnings.  Mark of 

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ttw 4: 17
ttw 5: 39
ttw 6: 24         
ttw 7: 15
ttw 8: 3
ttw 9: 0
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ttw 12: 0
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ttw 14: 1
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[Higurashi]

-Fire Lava Destroyer Rush Ver. 2 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11389.0.html): 5.900 ttw. Losses: 2 EM: 4 Games: 100 - posted by Higurashi -
6 Burning Tower, 1 Fire Pendulum, 3 Crimson Dragon, 6 Cremation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 3 Minor Phoenix, 4 Ball Lightning, 1 Gavel, Earth Mark.

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Between Wings, Dim Shields, Dusk Mantles, much more and faster CC in the form of tons of Pandemonium and Rage Potions, this deck has taken a big blow to its speed. A single Unstoppable and Explosion would help it tons, and probably shave off around 0.3 turns. KOTH, for instance, is a better fit now.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

TNG somehow talked me into running stats for Essence's mono-Darkness

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