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Re: turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17903.msg229127#msg229127
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2010, 03:01:07 pm »
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AiwMGGakrptadE9BNEhPXzUwWXF5SmRjdlFsTHdTRFE&hl=it&authkey=COLmkfgO#gid=0

Here Grabbix stats (9 games).

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Re: turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17903.msg229152#msg229152
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2010, 03:36:31 pm »
DEMA: Destroy 'EM All! V2.1 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12700.0.html):
Games: 100, Avg. ttw: 5,770 ttw, Avg. Time:  ***sec/game, Losses: 0, EM: 13 - posted by  - lukce
List of cards: 4 Nova, 2 Elite Graboid, 3 Improved Heal, 6 Cremeation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 1 Minor Phoenix, 2 Vampire Dagger, 6 Ball Lightning. Mark of  :earth

I don't think you are playing this deck correctly if you are only getting 13% EM. I haven't noticed any significant reduction in EMs with 1.26. The last turn involves a lot of playing/withholding Ball Lightnings, burrowing Shriekers, or cremating creatures to hit the EM. I think you should be up over 50%. I don't play DEMA for the EM even, I play it for speed and only account for the EM on the final turn, and I think I am still over 50%.

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Re: turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17903.msg229161#msg229161
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2010, 03:49:23 pm »
I always use heals at the end of the game for EMs. I do this with USEM, which has 6 heals (thats  +3) and still I don't finish always with EM. And talking about old elders. There are faster new elders, like the rainbow one, the speedbow kind. So I don't see wrong use here.

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Re: turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17903.msg229163#msg229163
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2010, 03:52:08 pm »
I am willing to help, if you trust me as a tester, that is.

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Re: turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17903.msg229200#msg229200
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2010, 04:39:02 pm »
Aight, tired of Cremation decks now, so I'll do..

-Mono-Death Recluse/Poison/Dragon Rush (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10074.0.html): 6.535 ttw losses: 1 EM: 14 games: 200 - posted by ratchetspyro94 - updated by Higurashi
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Still amazingly stable. All those EM's must be a strange result of some luck and Elder wasting CC on creatures instead of playing cards that do damage. I will note I had 1-2 Dragons in hand I couldn't use very often, so I prefer using all Mummies or one more Tower instead of one Dragon. The QI is kinda high, and I almost always have to wait to play cards.
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Re: turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17903.msg229214#msg229214
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2010, 04:50:38 pm »
PVP Graboid Rainbow (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7528.0.html): Games: 200, Avg. TTW: 8.612, Avg. Time: 82.250 sec/game, Losses: 4, EM: 6 - posted by Antagon - tested by pikachufan2164
4 Quantum Pillar, 2 Lycanthrope, 6 Nova, 2 Arsenic, 2 Momentum, 5 Graboid, 2 Forest Spirit, 2 Deflagration, 1 Freeze, 2 Fog Shield, 2 Lightning, Earth Mark.
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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 52q 55q 55q 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5i7 5og 5og 61q 61qTTW 3: 0
TTW 4: 0
TTW 5: 2
TTW 6: 21
TTW 7: 44
TTW 8: 43
TTW 9: 34
TTW 10: 19
TTW 11: 18
TTW 12: 6
TTW 13: 3
TTW 14: 2
TTW 15: 0
TTW 16: 2
TTW 17: 1
TTW 18: 1Average ttw: 8.612
Standard deviation of ttw: 2.144

Average sec./game: 82.250
Standard deviation of sec./game: 22.398

Average sec./turn: 9.550

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Re: turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17903.msg229301#msg229301
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2010, 06:20:42 pm »
I call USEM: Interrupted because it was already done.

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Games Played: 50
Win rate: 94%
EM: 72%
Electrum Gain: 1724
Score Gain: 1403
TTW: 6.833333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

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INITIAL STATS:
52993 score:
3121 electrum

END STATS
54396 score
4845 electrum

1.   8 EM
2.   L
3.   7 EM
4.   8 EM
5.   6 EM
6.   7
7.   7 EM
8.   8 EM
9.   7 EM
10.   6 EM
11.   7 EM
12.   7
13.   8 EM
14.   7 EM
15.   7 EM
16.   7 EM
17.   6 EM
18.   6 EM
19.   9
20.   5 EM
21.   6
22.   7 EM
23.   6 EM
24.   6 EM
25.   11
26.   L
27.   7
28.   8
29.   6 EM
30.   5 EM
31.   7 EM
32.   6
33.   6
34.   6 EM
35.   7 EM
36.   5 EM
37.   6 EM
38.   9
39.   7 EM
40.   8
41.   9 EM
42.   6 EM
43.   7 EM
44.   8 EM
45.   6
46.   7 EM
47.   5 EM
48.   7
49.   6 EM
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Re: turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17903.msg229303#msg229303
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2010, 06:22:54 pm »
 Too bad jmdt already conducted 200 games with USEM already :P
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Re: turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17903.msg229307#msg229307
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2010, 06:26:56 pm »
Too bad jmdt already conducted 200 games with USEM already :P
Aww.. Didn't see it in the forums..
Oh well, you can have 100 more then :P

Also, how should I judge TTW? I notice that the the stats at the top after I win are different from the ones I usually take. It's a whole turn more.
I used to measure based on how many cards I drew, but I think that if I win the toss, that counts as my turn, but I don't draw a card, so the stats at the top show a larger number...

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Re: turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17903.msg229335#msg229335
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2010, 06:58:04 pm »
Too bad jmdt already conducted 200 games with USEM already :P
Aww.. Didn't see it in the forums..
Oh well, you can have 100 more then :P

Also, how should I judge TTW? I notice that the the stats at the top after I win are different from the ones I usually take. It's a whole turn more.
I used to measure based on how many cards I drew, but I think that if I win the toss, that counts as my turn, but I don't draw a card, so the stats at the top show a larger number...
Judge TTW by how many times you press the End Turn button (or the space bar). This is also how the game's turn counter behaves.
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Re: turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17903.msg229337#msg229337
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2010, 06:59:30 pm »
Too bad jmdt already conducted 200 games with USEM already :P
Aww.. Didn't see it in the forums..
Oh well, you can have 100 more then :P

Also, how should I judge TTW? I notice that the the stats at the top after I win are different from the ones I usually take. It's a whole turn more.
I used to measure based on how many cards I drew, but I think that if I win the toss, that counts as my turn, but I don't draw a card, so the stats at the top show a larger number...
Judge TTW by how many times you press the End Turn button (or the space bar). This is also how the game's turn counter behaves.
Ok then. I'm getting lots of 7 turn wins though, the TTW on USEM is not going to be 6 point something anymore.

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Re: turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17903.msg229339#msg229339
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2010, 07:01:16 pm »
Too bad jmdt already conducted 200 games with USEM already :P
Aww.. Didn't see it in the forums..
Oh well, you can have 100 more then :P

Also, how should I judge TTW? I notice that the the stats at the top after I win are different from the ones I usually take. It's a whole turn more.
I used to measure based on how many cards I drew, but I think that if I win the toss, that counts as my turn, but I don't draw a card, so the stats at the top show a larger number...
Judge TTW by how many times you press the End Turn button (or the space bar). This is also how the game's turn counter behaves.
Ok then. I'm getting lots of 7 turn wins though, the TTW on USEM is not going to be 6 point something anymore.
That's to be expected.  On the original TTW study it was documented at 7.135ttw.
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