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[Official] Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10275.msg125944#msg125944
« on: July 27, 2010, 10:24:44 pm »


Anubis-Nymph
5/8  >  7/2
2 :aether  >  3  :aether   (Ability cost)
8 :time  >  9  :aether (summon cost)

When comparing the upgraded versions,

Anubis-Nymph
5/8  >  8/2
1 :aether  >  3  :aether   (Ability cost)
8 :time  >  9  :aether (summon cost)

Also, a quint costs 4  :aether  upgraded only 3) By the time you get the quantum to play the nymphs ability once, you had the quantum to play the quint 3-4 TIMES. And with only 2-3 life, most damaging spells could kill it before it has a chance to protect itself. And you have to wait a turn before playing its ability where as you can play all 3 quints in one turn (and yes, I know, you have to get 3 cards to play the quints, where as you can play the nymphs ability as many times as you want, but this hardly makes it better as most of the time I need to wait til I get a quint and a nymph so im sure it doesnt die right away or is rewound so i need to get 9 more quantum before replaying it).

Also, you may say that it is mono aether, so you dont need to splash another element, phase spider is the only non-immortal card in  :aether
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Re: Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10275.msg125953#msg125953
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2010, 10:35:06 pm »
er, can you take off the change vote thing. i voted perfect because i thought this was in the nerf section..... i was ready to get into a huge rant that this card doesnt need to be nerfed, because it costs so much to use it.
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Re: Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10275.msg125971#msg125971
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2010, 10:49:54 pm »
I couldnt find it modifying the poll, so I just completely re-did it, please re-vote everyone.
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Re: Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10275.msg125973#msg125973
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2010, 10:51:30 pm »
there, awesome. i voted for entering play immortal. which is one thing Anubis doesnt have
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Re: Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10275.msg126004#msg126004
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2010, 11:29:54 pm »
As much as I love the immortality aspect of Aether, that is one thing we should not do. It would set it apart from other nymphs and make it unbuffable, so you can't protect it from Fire Shield. And it can just use it's ability on itself anyways. The ability should be lowered to 2 for each and the upped should get 1 extra defense.
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Re: Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10275.msg126069#msg126069
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2010, 12:55:30 am »


Anubis-Nymph
5/8  >  7/2
2 :aether  >  3  :aether   (Ability cost)
8 :time  >  9  :aether (summon cost)

When comparing the upgraded versions,

Anubis-Nymph
5/8  >  7/3 (wow, one extra def)
1 :aether  >  3  :aether   (Ability cost)
8 :time  >  9  :aether (summon cost)

Also, a quint costs 4  :aether  upgraded only 3) By the time you get the quantum to play the nymphs ability once, you had the quantum to play the quint 3-4 TIMES. And with only 2-3 life, most damaging spells could kill it before it has a chance to protect itself. And you have to wait a turn before playing its ability where as you can play all 3 quints in one turn (and yes, I know, you have to get 3 cards to play the quints, where as you can play the nymphs ability as many times as you want, but this hardly makes it better as most of the time I need to wait til I get a quint and a nymph so im sure it doesnt die right away or is rewound so i need to get 9 more quantum before replaying it).

Also, you may say that it is mono aether, so you dont need to splash another element, phase spider is the only non-immortal card in  :aether
According to the picture it gets an extra attack, not an extra defense.

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Re: Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10275.msg126087#msg126087
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2010, 01:07:39 am »
ooops, my mistake, one extra attack isnt anything to brag about either
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Re: Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10275.msg126101#msg126101
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2010, 01:25:51 am »
ooops, my mistake, one extra attack isnt anything to brag about either
I would actually rather have it have more hp :P but i like the idea of it coming into play immortal better.

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Re: Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10275.msg126116#msg126116
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2010, 01:45:53 am »
@ddevans96: You realize that creatures in elements have summoning sickness, right? It can use its ability only after being in play for the one turn necessary for literally any damage-dealing creature control except for thunderstorm to kill it, and if your opponent has any in his hand, that's precisely what he or she will do.

I think that immortality is the way to go here specifically because of Anubis. An existing card already has the same exact ability, which can't be said for literally any other nymph. I think a more fitting ability would be to generate a copy of a target card in your hand (mix between fractal and PU), but it's the only one I have and I would actually rather have it be immortal. It makes perfect sense, since aether has two creatures with the same passive applicable skill unlike any other creature of any other element (charger is the only gravity creature with momentum, no life creatures have adrenaline, etc.). The purple nymph also has only 2 defense (upgraded, 1 unupped), but its ability gives a much higher advantage since it's the absolutely most powerful damage-reducing creature control in the game, and 1/3 cheaper than the card.

It just makes a lot of sense to me, and I know I'd actually use it if I didn't have to quint it, since at that point it's worth making a little more room in my deck and just using actual quints.

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Re: Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10275.msg126121#msg126121
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2010, 01:50:49 am »
@ddevans96: You realize that creatures in elements have summoning sickness, right? It can use its ability only after being in play for the one turn necessary for literally any damage-dealing creature control except for thunderstorm to kill it, and if your opponent has any in his hand, that's precisely what he or she will do.

I think that immortality is the way to go here specifically because of Anubis. An existing card already has the same exact ability, which can't be said for literally any other nymph. I think a more fitting ability would be to generate a copy of a target card in your hand (mix between fractal and PU), but it's the only one I have and I would actually rather have it be immortal. It makes perfect sense, since aether has two creatures with the same passive applicable skill unlike any other creature of any other element (charger is the only gravity creature with momentum, no life creatures have adrenaline, etc.). The purple nymph also has only 2 defense (upgraded, 1 unupped), but its ability gives a much higher advantage since it's the absolutely most powerful damage-reducing creature control in the game, and 1/3 cheaper than the card.

It just makes a lot of sense to me, and I know I'd actually use it if I didn't have to quint it, since at that point it's worth making a little more room in my deck and just using actual quints.
I see your point, but I really hate the idea of one nymph being immaterial and all the others not being that.

And Titan also has momentum, but it's not a creature unless you fly it, so I guess that doesn't count.
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Re: Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10275.msg126133#msg126133
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2010, 02:09:04 am »

I see your point, but I really hate the idea of one nymph being immaterial and all the others not being that.

And Titan also has momentum, but it's not a creature unless you fly it, so I guess that doesn't count.
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Re: Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10275.msg126134#msg126134
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I see your point, but I really hate the idea of one nymph being immaterial and all the others not being that.

And Titan also has momentum, but it's not a creature unless you fly it, so I guess that doesn't count.
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Because it would unbalance the entire concept of nymphs.
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