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Dune Scorpion | Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9467.msg111760#msg111760
« on: July 10, 2010, 06:11:53 pm »



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Re: Dune Scorpion | Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9467.msg111762#msg111762
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2010, 06:13:10 pm »
I can soo imagine this with fractal :) EPIC denial if it weren't for the 0 atk D:

But I think momentum can fix that ;)

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Re: Dune Scorpion | Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9467.msg111764#msg111764
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 06:15:16 pm »
Op, luckily has 0 attack.
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Re: Dune Scorpion | Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9467.msg111771#msg111771
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2010, 06:18:47 pm »
I made a deck for this before this was even posted XD

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9466.msg120668.html#new

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Re: Dune Scorpion | Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9467.msg111775#msg111775
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2010, 06:21:11 pm »
Suggestion - Instead of poisoning, it should read:

Neurotoxin:
Discard 1 card upon successful attack.
Cause discard if ingested.


Maybe?  I guess it's not the player who's doing the ingesting.  But it makes sense (to me).

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Re: Dune Scorpion | Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9467.msg111784#msg111784
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2010, 06:27:06 pm »
This card is pure evil.

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Re: Dune Scorpion | Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9467.msg111805#msg111805
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2010, 06:39:25 pm »
God, this is overpowered. No card should be able to affect my HAND. I mean, seriously, my hand is a "safe zone" that shouldn't be touchable.

 :time :gravity is OP now with this card. Dune Scorpion + Momentum.
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Re: Dune Scorpion | Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9467.msg111809#msg111809
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2010, 06:44:59 pm »
Uhhh, actually, this seems pretty balanced.

I mean, you say this card is affecting your hand which is a safe zone, but think about it.  Not ONLY do you get to choose which card you discard, but if you can drop all of your cards fast enough, you don't have to discard anything at all.  And it's not like these are difficult to kill.  I think this is an excellent way to counter stall decks or OHKO decks, while giving a time rush deck a nice boost.

BEFORE you all accuse this of being OP, I ask that we see this card work in the trainer.  Depending upon when you have to discard the card, this might actually be very easy to work around.  If the discarding takes place at the end of your turn, then there's no way to be caught off guard by it.  And even if it happens at the end of their turn, then the only time it can trick you is the turn it's played.

And Blood, who said your hand was safe?  Last I checked, time was shoving expensive dragons in there and refusing to let you pay for them.

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Re: Dune Scorpion | Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9467.msg111818#msg111818
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2010, 06:53:47 pm »
but then when you are waiting for the quantum to play a card you are weak, besides you could easily rush this out on the first/ 2nd turn while still being able to buff it

a single one is threatinging enough, multiple =op unless you can actually play your cards

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Re: Dune Scorpion | Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9467.msg111822#msg111822
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2010, 06:58:51 pm »
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And Blood, who said your hand was safe?  Last I checked, time was shoving expensive dragons in there and refusing to let you pay for them.
Then I'd just discard the dragons. If you're talking about Rewind, then I won't have to discard anything I don't want to discard. But for this scorpion, I would really HATE to choose between my Otyugh and Fallen Druid for which one to discard.
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Re: Dune Scorpion | Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9467.msg111823#msg111823
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2010, 06:59:12 pm »
This could open a new trio.

Time-Earth-Gravity

Pulverizer
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Re: Dune Scorpion | Dune Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9467.msg111825#msg111825
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2010, 07:01:14 pm »
Uhhh, actually, this seems pretty balanced.

I mean, you say this card is affecting your hand which is a safe zone, but think about it.  Not ONLY do you get to choose which card you discard, but if you can drop all of your cards fast enough, you don't have to discard anything at all.  And it's not like these are difficult to kill.  I think this is an excellent way to counter stall decks or OHKO decks, while giving a time rush deck a nice boost.

BEFORE you all accuse this of being OP, I ask that we see this card work in the trainer.  Depending upon when you have to discard the card, this might actually be very easy to work around.  If the discarding takes place at the end of your turn, then there's no way to be caught off guard by it.  And even if it happens at the end of their turn, then the only time it can trick you is the turn it's played.

And Blood, who said your hand was safe?  Last I checked, time was shoving expensive dragons in there and refusing to let you pay for them.
I wrote this in another thread a while ago when someone else brought up discarding cards into Elements.  I was against it.

One of the things I like about Elements are the many things that separate it from Magic: The Gathering.  One of the things you can do it Elements that you can't do in MTG is make crazy 1-Turn Kill decks.  These decks require the ability to sit back, stall, and wait until they gobble up all the cards they need until they can pull of their combo.

I guess these decks still work because... based on all the games you'll ever play, what percentage of them will have the scorpion?

But if this is just the first discard card in a long line of discard cards to come, this might be the beginning of the end for 1-Turn Kill decks.  (And one more step towards MTG.  Now all we need now are counter spells. ^_^)

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