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dramore

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg117275#msg117275
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2010, 05:36:49 am »
I just started useing an unupgraded verison or your type 2 but i changed out the
Owl's Eye for an Eternity and it works supriseing well. great design

safko01

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg118472#msg118472
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2010, 08:13:26 pm »
I just started useing an unupgraded verison or your type 2 but i changed out the
Owl's Eye for an Eternity and it works supriseing well. great design
Glad to hear it is working well.  Does it use novas instead of SNs?

Rainbowz

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg120677#msg120677
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2010, 03:20:09 am »
Your 4 cards should be 2 plaque 1 boneyard and 1 bone wall . :D

MYF

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg130700#msg130700
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2010, 02:11:42 am »
I've been trying out versions of this for Ai3 farming and it has a very good EM rate. A very nice deck.  :)

rotface

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg130705#msg130705
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2010, 02:15:16 am »
whats best ai to play withg this

Xelax

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg132636#msg132636
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2010, 09:08:09 pm »
Really liking the deck - been playing it with a slight adaption, but pretty much the same base.

I've got an Epinephrine in there, along with a Pufferfish and a Phoenix- relying on one vampire or Discord just wasn't enough I found. Traded one Fractal for a Twin Universe, so I can get the Epinephrine twice, which means up to 4 poison and 16 damage a go with the Pufferfish, or 18 health from one vampired.


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I tend to Fractal the devourer, and depending on whether healing is necessary, and the amount of Dark quanta, either the Phoenix or the Vampire.

The thing is, if you destroy all their quanta and quanta production, the Devourers get you very very little- 1 extra darkness a turn. If that's the case, it;s difficult to spam the vamps out, whereas the Phoenixes are really cheap

finkel

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg132649#msg132649
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2010, 09:30:04 pm »
Good point about devourers not getting any quanta. What about some quintessences and growth creatures (destroyer ideally, but merc or forest spectre work well too) instead of fractal? You'll be able to pair a quintessence with a creature fairly early on, and the only shield that may give you trouble is a spine carapace. Just a thought.

Xelax

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg132651#msg132651
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2010, 09:36:30 pm »
Good point about devourers not getting any quanta. What about some quintessences and growth creatures (destroyer ideally, but merc or forest spectre work well too) instead of fractal? You'll be able to pair a quintessence with a creature fairly early on, and the only shield that may give you trouble is a spine carapace. Just a thought.
The Explosions should take care of any shield you come across. A growth creature and quint might be a good idea, although we still want it to be fast. A lot of the time I'll find myself using an enemy's creature, just because I haven't drawn my own. Atm I think my deck has enough damage- I know 3 damage dealing creatures isn't much, but they can all be fractalled reasonably well.

Give it a test if you feel inclined though- I'd be interested to know how it goes

wavedash

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg133261#msg133261
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2010, 10:45:56 pm »
When would you Fractal the Phoenix? They don't do much damage, and you probably won't have much Fire Quanta.

kobisjeruk

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg133525#msg133525
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2010, 08:10:08 am »
When would you Fractal the Phoenix? They don't do much damage, and you probably won't have much Fire Quanta.
phoenix is just a secondary choice for damage, most of the time you'll play the first fractal aiming for pest and the second one for vampire. the reason why minor phoenix is chosen is already stated there in case you missed it

Xelax

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg133712#msg133712
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2010, 04:25:23 pm »
When would you Fractal the Phoenix? They don't do much damage, and you probably won't have much Fire Quanta.
I did already say,  as Kobis said, but I'll repeat it anyway. Minor Phoenixes are ridiculously cheap, so they're easy to play. Plus they're hard to kill, so having a tonne of them is pretty good too.
As for not having enough quanta- Assuming you wait till about halfway through the deck before you fractal you'll have 6 fire quanta from Supernovae and have half your pillars out. I can't be bothered to work out probabilities and numbers, but you're likely to have enough to play a full hand of Phoenixes when it comes out.


Since my last post I've put the 3rd devourer back in- I've been finding it difficult to get the denial part going with only two. Tempted to put the third fractal in as well, making it a 33 card deck, although I'm not too sure

Edit: It's a bit Aether quanta heavy with three fractals and a TU though..

Xelax

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg133731#msg133731
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2010, 04:52:24 pm »
whats best ai to play withg this
I mainly use it against PVP2. Occasionally I go into autopilot and go to the FGs, and it managed to beat Obliterator, but not a good idea for common use against them. Beats AI3 easily, but it's more fun in pvp

 

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