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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg257962#msg257962
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2011, 09:35:19 pm »
I'm amazed you can beat FG without Quints guarding your scorpions... Do they even target them?

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg257966#msg257966
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2011, 09:40:43 pm »
I'm amazed you can beat FG without Quints guarding your scorpions... Do they even target them?
You really only need to hit with them once. After that, neurotoxin takes care of the rest.

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg258141#msg258141
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2011, 03:14:41 am »
It can be a really quick deck if you get a scorp out the first turn :)

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg258231#msg258231
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2011, 07:16:30 am »
It can be a really quick deck if you get a scorp out the first turn :)
I think you mean the second turn, unless you have Entropy Tower/Pendulum...

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg258239#msg258239
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2011, 07:57:21 am »
It can be a really quick deck if you get a scorp out the first turn :)
In fact, I play my scorpion second turn (malignant is right here) only if I have nothing better to play (specially if you have few quanta). One more rewind at the end to the reach the lethal amount of poison is not a big deal. However, you can only do that if you survive the critical first few turns. I'd say put up your defence first, then hit with neurotoxin (with a few exception - see guide).

Considering all the redundancy in the deck, is only one copy of BE optimal?
I started with 2 at the beginning (idem if you take a look at the original version of eSco).  Then I realised BE is quite situational. It is more "optimal" IMHO to use the slot for a better card for defence (shield, hourglass, eternity). You have only 3 scorpions. The first one is used for poisoning. The second is the adaptable one : use BE for ferox or miracle, antimatter for the FG having a lot of CC, as poisoning again for Scorpio, etc...). The last one is deemed to be rewound. I don't think an earlier BE is really needed in most cases also because it requires a lot of :entropy. At the beginning of the game you'll prefer to use it on antimatter or pandemonium (just in case 3 light dragons appear) and you will have enough quantum to destroy each turn only at the middle/end ...

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg258255#msg258255
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2011, 08:25:27 am »
Was gonna ask about BE as well, but it's answered now. :)

Can someone test this for me, I have to work now: a Purple Nymth on the field that is Antimattered; will it get targeted? I want to have more Antimatters in the long run against Graviton, Obliterator, etc.

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg258321#msg258321
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2011, 12:47:12 pm »
DG Beat :D


Now if I can EM the gods Sno hasn't yet :D...

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg258488#msg258488
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2011, 06:23:45 pm »
I love the win rate, but it's really hard to get EMs without using poison+antimatter. EMs do affect the chance to win cards right? I don't realyl care about the Electrums, I want the cards. How much better of a chance will EM let me win cards?
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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg258493#msg258493
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2011, 06:27:58 pm »
I love the win rate, but it's really hard to get EMs without using poison+antimatter. EMs do affect the chance to win cards right? I don't realyl care about the Electrums, I want the cards. How much better of a chance will EM let me win cards?
I don't think whether or not you EM has any effect on card win rate.

If you want cards, then you should be playing with a deck that sacrifices win rate for extra win speed, like Turbo RoL/Hope or Voodoo.
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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg258500#msg258500
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2011, 06:40:12 pm »
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If you want cards, then you should be playing with a deck that sacrifices win rate for extra win speed, like Turbo RoL/Hope or Voodoo.
I actually prefer win rate> speed, because then I can win a variety of cards against different gods instead of the easy ones. Besides, this deck is funner by far. :) Like Sno said, RoL/ Fractal is about as boring as German politics. :D
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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg258525#msg258525
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2011, 07:08:49 pm »
You should add this to the FG section

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg258535#msg258535
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2011, 07:26:37 pm »
He needs 30+ replies from us first for it to be legitimately added, or it'll get removed. Keep the comments coming guys. :D
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