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Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg113717#msg113717
« on: July 13, 2010, 07:19:29 pm »
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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg174437#msg174437
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2010, 10:01:19 am »
Can't you just do mono-aether with pruifies and SoGs thrown in?

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg174440#msg174440
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2010, 10:24:04 am »
Can't you just do mono-aether with purifies and SoGs thrown in?
no SoGs are allowed
also the permaforst shields and purifies can deck you out

so...
fire bolt+phase shield+purify again? :P
6 purify this time

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg175850#msg175850
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2010, 12:11:24 am »
This is an okay deck, though it has 6 rares:

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It's a water stall. Permafrost + SoG pretty much wins, especially since Scorpio doesn't have many high attack creatures. You should be able to survive with 20+ poison stacks (overall you'll lose health each turn, but that heals back after purify), so space out purifies. With six ice lances, you need 163 quanta to win. Save for a horrible pillar draw, you should have just about that much before you deck out.

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I lost because he pulled out an early dragon while I didn't draw a permafrost for the first 10ish turns, so I had to ice lance it to avoid death. Normally it should be frozen a good part of the time and you have enough healing for it anyway.

I would test it more, if only I could choose which FG to face. This might not be the best deck, but I think the win rate would be decent and there isn't anything else posted at the moment.

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg179608#msg179608
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 03:15:23 am »
Can't you just do mono-aether with purifies and SoGs thrown in?
no SoGs are allowed
also the permaforst shields and purifies can deck you out

so...
fire bolt+phase shield+purify again? :P
6 purify this time
If Neptune can't deck mono-aether out with permafrost why would scorpio?

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg179728#msg179728
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2010, 11:16:27 am »
Scorpio has healing via purifies, Neptune doesn't.

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg179730#msg179730
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 11:20:10 am »
Neptune can. A monoaether with Purifies means less offense or speed, so it's even easier for Scorpio.
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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg183245#msg183245
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2010, 02:18:39 am »
hm...what do we know about Scorpio?

1. Poison. Lots of it. Obviously the only counter to poison is purify - which, coincidentally, he also has (hinthint, mindgate)
2. Control. Lots of this too, but only for creatures. Quintessence or minimum creatures would stop this.
3. Quite a few creatures as well. TU could help provide you some damage, and would keep with the aether in the first two points.

Also, using steal on his permafrost shield would be pretty good, because he has no way of getting it back. Adding your own purifies or healing cards for maximum protection against poison would be nice too.
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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg183259#msg183259
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2010, 02:41:59 am »
hm...what do we know about Scorpio?

1. Poison. Lots of it. Obviously the only counter to poison is purify - which, coincidentally, he also has (hinthint, mindgate)
2. Control. Lots of this too, but only for creatures. Quintessence or minimum creatures would stop this.
3. Quite a few creatures as well. TU could help provide you some damage, and would keep with the aether in the first two points.

Also, using steal on his permafrost shield would be pretty good, because he has no way of getting it back. Adding your own purifies or healing cards for maximum protection against poison would be nice too.
1. He has 2 purifies in a 108 card deck. Mindgate isn't the answer here. My suggested deck has six purifies, which might even be too many. Five should be enough, replace one with a tower.
2. Having no creatures works too. This also helps clog up his hand.
3. Permafrost + SoG soaks up damage nicely.

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg183263#msg183263
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2010, 02:48:22 am »
hm...what do we know about Scorpio?

1. Poison. Lots of it. Obviously the only counter to poison is purify - which, coincidentally, he also has (hinthint, mindgate)
2. Control. Lots of this too, but only for creatures. Quintessence or minimum creatures would stop this.
3. Quite a few creatures as well. TU could help provide you some damage, and would keep with the aether in the first two points.

Also, using steal on his permafrost shield would be pretty good, because he has no way of getting it back. Adding your own purifies or healing cards for maximum protection against poison would be nice too.
1. He has 2 purifies in a 108 card deck. Mindgate isn't the answer here. My suggested deck has six purifies, which might even be too many. Five should be enough, replace one with a tower.
2. Having no creatures works too. This also helps clog up his hand.
3. Permafrost + SoG soaks up damage nicely.
1/3. I mentioned adding your own purifies and permaforst in the section below, and the mindgate can be used for a lot more than that.
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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg183268#msg183268
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2010, 03:04:01 am »
Sure, mind gate can be used for a lot more that, but then you die of poison. If you add purifies, it's harder to get an efficient deck that can use mind gate and win. I know you mentioned permafrost/healing; I was just using your points to prove why my deck works.

Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg195352#msg195352
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2010, 11:14:43 pm »
I tested a deck that runs rareless and without upgrades, here's my first version.  It's a water-light-life-air quartet!

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So far this deck in various forms has failed; it takes too long to get Hope set up, and Scorpio is a fast killer.  I am open to suggestions, or feel free to test and post your own versions and take credit for the modifications - I'm just putting the idea out there.

Problems with this deck:
- Shockwaves are necessary to kill Ulitharids (unless he gets no Aether Towers)
- Novas were necessary to ensure water quanta generation does not get in the way of other types big time - as a result, purifies can be unreliable.  Purify was not, however, what killed me.
- The only healing available is Bonds, and they take forever to set up.
- I originally had Adrenalines to bypass his freezing, but that's not only won't preserve your ability to summon Fireflies, it was creating even more bad draws.

A water/aether/darkness combo might be interesting too - Steal, Mind Flayer, Fractal Devourers and Drain Life.  A solid concept but severely lacking in damage unless you wait quite a while for the Drain Life spells.  No shield and Drain Life being the only healing presents a problem.

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