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Pyro Tank | Pyro Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50679.msg1091553#msg1091553
« on: August 09, 2013, 06:22:38 pm »
:fire lovers, get ready, the sixth submission is here! The Fire Tank, from my first card series, The Tank Collection.


NAME:
Pyro Tank
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 1
TEXT:
Fueled: Gains +1|+0 per cards in your opponent's hand. :fire : sacrifice this creature to generate 7 :fire quanta.
NAME:
Pyro Tank
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 3
TEXT:
Fueled: Gains +1|+0 per cards in your opponent's hand. :fire : sacrifice this creature to generate 8 :fire quanta.

ART:
Submachine (inspired by Hiss Tank)
IDEA:
Submachine
NOTES:
Fire elementalists now have another glass cannon: the Pyro Tank.
Your opponent can have 0-8 cards in his hand. That means that this tank has an average attack power of 4.
Synergy with SoB and Nightmare, no doubt about that.
Fueled is a passive ability.
Pyro Tank's stats only change when this creature attacks. So if the opponent draws a card, but it's not our turn, Pyro Tank won't get the attack bonus until it comes to attacking.
When you get the feeling that this card won't deal enough damage, because the opponent is rushing and his hand is always empty, you can sacrifice it to get more :fire quanta for creatures to step in its place.
The active ability also works as a quanta accelerator since it produces more quanta than the card cost, making this card an efficient glass cannon.
SERIES:
The Tank Collection

Spoiler for Hidden:
Original Tank Idea:

« Last Edit: August 23, 2013, 01:01:46 pm by Submachine »
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Re: Pyro Tank | Pyro Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50679.msg1091594#msg1091594
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 09:39:24 pm »
Really nice art on this one, and interesting concept. I think the cost could probably be reduced a bit, though.

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Re: Pyro Tank | Pyro Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50679.msg1091662#msg1091662
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2013, 02:57:39 am »
Cost reduction can be done, however, I'm afraid of making this card OP. In a mono :fire deck it's too easy to pack your opponents hand full with SoB, so that's 8 damage already + all the fire quanta divided by 5 can reach 10 damage in a very short time. But a cost of 3, 4 or 5 also looks reasonable if we compare it to Fahrenheit.
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Re: Pyro Tank | Pyro Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50679.msg1091666#msg1091666
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2013, 03:26:36 am »
I think 5 would be appropriate considering the low health, but 6 might be right too.

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Re: Pyro Tank | Pyro Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50679.msg1091959#msg1091959
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2013, 08:17:01 pm »
I'm slightly upset that you stole fahrenheit's ability, because that would make it somewhat redundant... but I digress

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Re: Pyro Tank | Pyro Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50679.msg1092043#msg1092043
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2013, 04:37:55 am »
^ Not redundant at all. You'll see why when suddenly, a wild Otyugh appears. Or a wild Explosion. Or Steal. Or Animate Opponent's Weapon (wtf lol). Nice idea, seems pretty balanced to me. Except, what about Cremation abuse?

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Re: Pyro Tank | Pyro Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50679.msg1092048#msg1092048
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 05:57:53 am »
What do you mean "cremation abuse"?

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Re: Pyro Tank | Pyro Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50679.msg1092137#msg1092137
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2013, 02:08:24 pm »
^ Not redundant at all. You'll see why when suddenly, a wild Otyugh appears. Or a wild Explosion. Or Steal. Or Animate Opponent's Weapon (wtf lol). Nice idea, seems pretty balanced to me. Except, what about Cremation abuse?

Animate Opponent's Weapon lol. I guess you wanted to say synergy instead of abuse. ^^" Cremation acts as a soft synergy with this card giving any Pyro Tanks +1 attack unless you spent your freshly gained :fire quanta or you used cremation on your own Pyro Tank. If you seek synergy, SoB can give +3 attack if played correctly. ^-^

note: AI would use cremation on Pyro Tanks without hesitation since it doesn't show any mercy to fire spirits aswell.
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Re: Pyro Tank | Pyro Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50679.msg1092140#msg1092140
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2013, 02:14:22 pm »
^ Not redundant at all. You'll see why when suddenly, a wild Otyugh appears. Or a wild Explosion. Or Steal. Or Animate Opponent's Weapon (wtf lol). Nice idea, seems pretty balanced to me. Except, what about Cremation abuse?

Taking a permanent and making it into a creature is definitely going to be redundant. I don't care that CC can now hit it and PC can't. Ooh, how about a card called "Mindgate Carrier" that does the exact same thing as a Mindgate but in creature form?

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Re: Pyro Tank | Pyro Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50679.msg1092148#msg1092148
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2013, 02:40:03 pm »
This is quite evil with Nightmare. Drop this and then Nightmare and the hapless opponent has to watch their hp go down while looking at the copies of the very card that is killing them.

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Re: Pyro Tank | Pyro Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50679.msg1092150#msg1092150
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2013, 02:43:55 pm »
^ Not redundant at all. You'll see why when suddenly, a wild Otyugh appears. Or a wild Explosion. Or Steal. Or Animate Opponent's Weapon (wtf lol). Nice idea, seems pretty balanced to me. Except, what about Cremation abuse?

Taking a permanent and making it into a creature is definitely going to be redundant. I don't care that CC can now hit it and PC can't. Ooh, how about a card called "Mindgate Carrier" that does the exact same thing as a Mindgate but in creature form?

Devil's advocate: Isn't Scorpion and upped Toadfish basically Arsenic-like creatures?

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Re: Pyro Tank | Pyro Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50679.msg1092210#msg1092210
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2013, 07:44:31 pm »
Neither of those is in :death :D

So no. They are not.

 

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