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Amphibious Tank | Amphibious Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50681.msg1091558#msg1091558
« on: August 09, 2013, 06:40:12 pm »
Ahh, my peaceful 7th submission from my peaceful card series: The Tank Collection. How sweet. ^-^


NAME:
Amphibious Tank
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
4 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 5
TEXT:
:water :water : Hydrate. Effect depends on target's element. Passive: underwater. Stats and skill power doubles in flood.
NAME:
Amphibious Tank
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
4 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 5
TEXT:
:water : Hydrate. Effect depends on target's element. Passive: underwater. Stats and skill power doubles in flood.

ART:
Submachine (inspired by Triton)
IDEA:
Submachine
NOTES:
Let's go through how Hydrating affects each element:
Water: heals 4 HP. Can't go over max HP.
Life: gains +2|+2.
Fire: suffers 4 damage.
Earth: gains -2|-2.
Every other: heals 2 HP. Cannot go over max HP.
Amphibious Tank has 5 HP, because if it's down to 1, it can heal herself up to max. (Yes, it's a her)
SERIES:
The Tank Collection

Spoiler for Hidden:
Original Tank Idea:

« Last Edit: August 19, 2013, 11:47:43 am by Submachine »
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Re: Amphibious Tank | Amphibious Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50681.msg1091592#msg1091592
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 09:36:17 pm »
Interesting. Kind of soft CC mixed with healing. Maybe mito+flood+SoPa?

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Re: Amphibious Tank | Amphibious Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50681.msg1091658#msg1091658
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2013, 02:48:34 am »
Interesting. Kind of soft CC mixed with healing. Maybe mito+flood+SoPa?

It's CC only against fire and earth creatures. Life gets bigger benefits from Hydrating than any other element, because Life's buff can exceed the maximum limit. For example buffing a freshly summoned forest spirit to protect it from early strikes.
When Amphibious Tank, flood and SoP are both active at the same time, the stat doubling comes first, and only after that happens the +2|+2.
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Re: Amphibious Tank | Amphibious Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50681.msg1091675#msg1091675
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2013, 04:20:19 am »
I really like this card for its interesting mechanic. I like the elementally thematic ability of the card, as it has a soft counter to water's opposite, :fire. Nice!

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Re: Amphibious Tank | Amphibious Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50681.msg1091956#msg1091956
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2013, 08:04:28 pm »
No offense, but I dislike cards that have a variable effect. At least I dislike ones with so many different possible effects.

While it may be thematic, it's just not that useful, and it gets to the point where it is completely confusing.

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Re: Amphibious Tank | Amphibious Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50681.msg1092097#msg1092097
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2013, 12:14:51 pm »
No offense, but I dislike cards that have a variable effect. At least I dislike ones with so many different possible effects.

While it may be thematic, it's just not that useful, and it gets to the point where it is completely confusing.

And your suggestion is... ?

Anyway, I'm not offended. :D
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Re: Amphibious Tank | Amphibious Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50681.msg1092099#msg1092099
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 12:22:38 pm »
Hydrate could be Purify that's only applicable to creatures?

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Re: Amphibious Tank | Amphibious Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50681.msg1092324#msg1092324
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 01:04:26 pm »
Hydrate could be Purify that's only applicable to creatures?

But wouldn't that be too... blunt? :( Maybe it should be like this:  :water :water : Rehydrate. Remove all bad status effects from target (not just creature) and heal 4 HP. And it would also remove poison, freeze, delay, gravity pull, doom, flash and magnetize.
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Re: Amphibious Tank | Amphibious Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50681.msg1093284#msg1093284
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2013, 11:35:02 pm »
I just somehow liked the older version more. Maybe I'll change it back, but in a more simple way. The mechanics would work as multiple Holy Lights, different effects for specific creature types.

To the new ability:
Removes all bad status effects from target (not just creature) and heal 4 HP. It would remove not just poison, but also freeze, delay, gravity pull, doom, flash and magnetize. See my previous post in this topic.
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Re: Amphibious Tank | Amphibious Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50681.msg1093296#msg1093296
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2013, 01:20:44 am »
I'm thinking a variable effect is fine, but you need to make it a bit more "okay, this is useful" and a bit less "I have to look up the page about this card so I know what is going to happen when I use the ability"

Basically make it a bit more predictable with the old effect.

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Re: Amphibious Tank | Amphibious Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50681.msg1093338#msg1093338
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2013, 11:55:28 am »
I'm thinking a variable effect is fine, but you need to make it a bit more "okay, this is useful" and a bit less "I have to look up the page about this card so I know what is going to happen when I use the ability"

Basically make it a bit more predictable with the old effect.

Hmm, okay I changed back the ability to the old, but I updated the notes to be more predictable.
I'm using inverses. Hydrating now gives
+2|+2 for life, -2|-2 for earth.
+4 heal for water, -4 damage for fire.
Aether now acts as normal: +2 heal for elements other than water, life, earth or fire.
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Re: Amphibious Tank | Amphibious Tank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50681.msg1093387#msg1093387
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2013, 06:47:45 pm »
... shouldn't the opposite of life be death, or are we just screwing around now :D

 

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