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Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225098#msg225098
« on: December 15, 2010, 04:54:53 am »


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Table of Damage
by Bhlewos

Damage Formula: dmg=100*HP/(100+HP)
HealthDamage
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HealthDamage
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HealthDamage
51 34
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HealthDamage
76 44
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86 47
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89 48
90 48
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92 48
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95 49
96 49
97 50
98 50
99 50
100 50
I rounded up since that was how the damage was calculated the old way, so 13.04 became 14, and 27.007 became 28. I'm not sure if this is how it's supposed to be done so correct me if it isn't.

And here's a graph comparing the old values to the new. Apologies for the step-like-ness of the graphs, I used the integer values.


New Change: The Catapult | Trebuchet now deals 20% additional damage if you fling a frozen creature, and if you fling an Infected creature, it adds Poison counters to the opponent equal to the number of Infection counters on the creature.

Even newer change: Catapult | Trebuchet now deals 30% (not 20%) additional damage if you fling a frozen creature.

Newest change: Catapult | Trebuchet now deals 50% (not 30%) additional damage if you fling a frozen creature.

Trivia: At 27 HP, Freeze starts doing more damage than Basilisk Blood via Catapult. A Frozen, Catapulted Titan does 50 damage instead of 51 because of how the game rounds down.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2015, 10:30:26 am by Ginyu »

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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225099#msg225099
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 04:55:57 am »
Awesome card is awesome.

Zanz said the maximum damage is ~25, for those who are willing to experiment with otk's.
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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225101#msg225101
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 04:56:11 am »
First!

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Anyway. This looks like a really awesome card :D Definitely gonna be fun to test.
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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225102#msg225102
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2010, 04:57:39 am »
This + Flying Titan or a heavily stunned Voodoo Doll (from Basilisk's Blood) is hopefully going to be quite a useful permanent for Gravity; it's certainly going to be a good buff no matter how you look at it.

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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225103#msg225103
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 04:58:01 am »
Also, this damage will bypass the reflecting effects of Mirror and Jade Shield.

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[11:53:17 PM] zanzarino: For the same reason mirror should not reflect the catapult damage either
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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225104#msg225104
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2010, 04:58:13 am »
Someone should reserve a post on front page, then tell use the damage/size ratio, so we don't have to look on page 4.


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2 2 16&17 12 45-48 22
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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225110#msg225110
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2010, 05:04:02 am »
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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225113#msg225113
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2010, 05:07:54 am »
Someone should reserve a post on front page, then tell use the damage/size ratio, so we don't have to look on page 4.
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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225114#msg225114
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2010, 05:08:06 am »
With all these new cards coming, I'm not sure I will have enough permanent slot to play. :P
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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225115#msg225115
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2010, 05:08:43 am »
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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225117#msg225117
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2010, 05:11:36 am »
Someone should reserve a post on front page, then tell use the damage/size ratio, so we don't have to look on page 4.
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Bigger how? Attack wise (like adrenaline)? Or HP wise (would be OP with armagio, IMO)?

What is the ratio of size/damage?

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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225121#msg225121
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2010, 05:14:52 am »
I assume larger means more hp.

How would shields affect this? It would seem like physical damage, but damage that only hits once is usually spell. It would make sense to have momentum too, so it'd probably ignore shields anyway.

So.. a damage source that isn't reflected by mirror shield and isn't stopped by sundial?

 

anything
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