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War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165239#msg165239
« on: September 26, 2010, 04:32:13 pm »
(http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10175.0;attach=1599;image)WAR - RULES

War is a massive forum PvP event with a total of 104 players. Players are divided into 13 teams, led by a General. Teams will fight each other until there is only one team left.


     



1. BUILDING AN ARMY
This first phase consists of Generals building their armies using player auction.


1.1. GENERALS
War will have 12 Generals, one for each element. Masters are the Generals of their element by default. If a Master is unable to join War, he or she will appoint a replacement General (Sr. Member or above). If one or more elements don't have a Master, a General will be picked by the Council.

Generals are given 500 blank cards. These cards will be used as currency when recruiting players during the next phase. Later they will be used to build the starting Vault for the team.


1.2. PLAYER AUCTION
Players who want to join War will each start their own War application topic where they include important information about themselves like their score and the number of rare cards they have.

There will be three different areas where players may post their War application topics. A player can choose only one area at a time. Area where the player posts his or her application determines his or her role in the auction.

I. Palace
Loyalists pick 3 elements they are loyal to. Generals from these 3 elements can make bids on the Loyalist, Generals from other 9 elements cannot. Bids for Loyalists start at 12 cards. If you become a Loyalist you have more control over which team to join, but you also have a higher starting price. This area is most suitable for seasoned veteran players who know they will be bid on.

II. Mercenary's Guild
Mercenaries pick 3 elements they refuse to work with. Generals from these 3 elements cannot make bids on the Mercenary, other 9 elements can. Bids for Mercenaries start at 3 cards. Mercenaries have some control over which team to join to, and their starting price is not too high, making Mercenary a great balanced choice for both newbies and veterans.

III. Slave Market
Slaves can be bought by all Generals. Bids for Slaves start at 1 card. This area is best for newbies and less known players, or cool players who don't really care which element they are fighting for.

Note: Player auction is a big part of War event, so unfortunately there are no guarantees that you will get to join the team you want. Players who later refuse to fight for the element that bought them, or who become inactive and fight with zero motivation, will be removed from the event and banned from the next War. Only way to get to join a specific teams is to convince the General of that element to bid high on you.

Bidding lasts 7 days. Generals will bid using the following template:
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[color=yellow][size=72pt]6 cards[/size][/color]Once a bid has been posted, it is final. Editing or removing a bid is strictly prohibited and will lead to a penalty.

Each General recruits 7 players from the auction.

Minimum raise is 1 card. If the previous bid is 4 cards, you have to bid 5 cards to win. Generals can only bid on a maximum of different 21 players. Generals can bid on these 21 players as many times as they like, but cannot bid on a 22nd player. Getting outbid doesn't make a difference: the limit is 21 whether or not you are winning or losing (or lost) the auction.

Maximum bid is 24 cards. If a player gets bid on 24 cards, he or she has two options:
1. Instantly join the team that made the 24 card bid.
2. Wait for someone else to make the same 24 card bid (24 cards is maximum so you don't need to bid any higher), and join that team instead. You can wait as long as you want (waiting other 24 card bids), even make the decision after the auction has closed.

Bill is a Slave. General of :fire really wants Bill on his team so he bids 24 cards. Bill now has the option to instantly join team :fire, or to wait for some other team to bid the same 24 cards. Bill is hoping some other team might do the maximum bid as well, so he decides to wait.

Next day General of :water bids 24 cards. Bill likes :water so he decides to join team :water. Bill is added to team :water roster and General pays 24 cards. Bill's application topic is locked.
Players are allowed to change areas once during the bidding if they currently have zero bids on them. For example, if you chose to be a Loyalist and have zero bids after 6 days, you can change areas and become a Slave instead, increasing the chances that someone will bid for you. Once you get bid on, changing areas is no longer an option.

We will have one universal auction clock. When the clock is running, Generals can bid on anyone. When the clock stops and there were no new bids made during the last 24 hours, the auction is over. If there were new bids made during the last 24 hours, we go to overtime, the clock gets reset back to 24 hours, and the minimum raise increases by one card. When minimum raise increases, starting bid also increases. This means that during the the 1st overtime, starting bids are 2, 4 and 13.

Generals win 7 players that they bid the most, AND they were the highest bidder.

For example lets say I had made the following bids:

Player A - 9 cards (highest bidder)
Player B - 8 cards (3rd highest bidder)
Player C - 8 cards (highest bidder)
Player D - 7 cards (highest bidder)
Player E - 6 cards (highest bidder)
Player F - 6 cards (2nd highest bidder)
Player G - 4 cards (highest bidder)
Player H - 3 cards (highest bidder)
Player K - 2 cards (highest bidder)
Player L - 2 cards (highest bidder)
Player M - 2 cards (highest bidder)

I would first win players A, C, D, E, G, and H because they are my highest bids. I could then pick one from players K L and M because I bid the same amount on all of them. Lets say I pick would player K. My bids for players L and M would then disappear like they never even existed, making the persons who bid 1 card on Players L and M, the highest bidders.

My team would cost me 9 + 8 + 7 + 6 + 4 + 3 + 2 = 36 cards. This means that the starting Vault of my team would be 500 - 36 = 464 cards.
Bidding is basically a choice between buying expensive veteran players and starting with a card disadvantage, or buying cheap newbies but having a card advantage, or anything in between.

If a General fails to win the required 7 players, he/she is forced to buy one or more remaining players with a price of 24 cards each. It is very important to bid on multiple different people to ensure that you will be the highest bidder in at least 7 occasions.




2. GETTING READY FOR WAR
Next teams get ready for War by coming up with a strategy, delegating tasks, and building their starting Vault.


2.1. SECRET FORUM SECTION
Each team has their secret forum section only visible to team members, Warmasters and forum Administrator. All discussions held in this secret section are to be kept a secret. A player who gets caught telling team secrets to anyone outside his or her own team will be permanently banned from all Elements community PvP events. Just to be safe, don't publicly talk about anything that goes on in that section.

There are specific topics that all teams are required to start. On top of that, any team member can start any topic when needed, but needless spam should be avoided.


2.2. MEMBER ROLES
Each team has a total of 8 members (1+7). Each team member has a specific role. Member roles are assigned by the General.

1. General
General is the leader of the team who makes sure that other team members are doing their jobs and fighting their battles. General also communicates with Warmasters. Generals can use up to 6 upgraded cards during duels.

2. Lieutenant
Lieutenant is second in command. If one team member is unable to perform his or her duties, the Lieutenant is responsible for performing the job of that team member. Lieutenants can use up to 3 upgraded cards during duels.

3. Strategist
Strategist is in charge of planning team overall strategy. Each round, Strategist starts a topic that talks about opponents strengths and weaknesses, for example what cards the opponents have left, what kind of decks they like to use, etc.

4. Vault Organizer
Vault Organizer makes sure that the team Vault is up-to-date at all times by adding and removing cards when needed.

5. Deckbuilder
Deckbuilder starts a deck topic for each round. Everyone on the team joins deckbuilding discussion, but it's Deckbuilders job to make sure that all the decks are ready on time and that none of the decks are illegal.

6. Duel Organizer
Duel Organizer is in charge of all team duels happening during a round. If one or more team members are unable to fight their duels, Duel Organizer must inform the General as soon as possible and try to find a replacement.

7. Salvager
Salvager starts the "Salvaging/Discarding" topic. Everyone on the team joins the discussion, but it's Salvagers job to make sure that all discarding and salvaging are done on time.

8. Dogsbody
The Dogsbody is the Generals Aide filling in any duty that may be required of him.


2.3. THE VAULT
The Vault is very important because cards in the Vault are not only used to build decks, but they also act as "hit points" for the whole team. If a Vault is less than 30 cards at the start of a round, that team gets eliminated from the event. Vault is built by the whole team, led by the General.

Cards that were not used during player auction, will form the team starting Vault. Up to this point, cards have just been a number, now it is time to fill the Vault with specific cards.

Vault building rules:
- at least 50% of cards have to be from your element
- maximum of 24 per card from your element (restriction doesn't apply to Pillars or Pendulums)
- maximum of 12 per card from other elements (restriction doesn't apply to Pillars or Pendulums)
- no Shards

Cards in the Vault are always unupgraded. If you move an upgraded card back to the Vault, it becomes unupgraded.

Notes:
- Marks: For the War event, "Mark of ..." cards are considered in the element of the element they feature. This is different to how they appear in the normal game as they are an other type card there. They are not considered equivalent to a Pillar or Pendulum. 

Important! Vault doesn't really exist. Players are not given cards they take from the Vault, nor are any cards removed from their account if they lose. Players must own the cards on their Elements game account in order to use them. If a player doesn't have a specific card in his/her account, He/she cannot use it even if that card is listed in the Vault. So try to pick cards that your team members actually have or can buy if needed.




3. STARTING A ROUND
War consists of multiple rounds. Each round consists of three phases:
    Determining OpponentsDeckbuildingDuels[/list]
    Number of DuelsDeckbuildingDuelsTOTAL
    52-27
    4 days
    3 days
    7 days
    26-14
    3 days
    3 days
    6 days
    13-7
    3 days
    2 days
    5 days
    6-1
    2 days
    2 days
    4 days

    3.1. DETERMINING OPPONENTS
    Amount of cards in the Vault determine how many players from each team participates on a round:

    0-29 cards=team is eliminated
    30-71 cards=1 player fights
    72-107 cards=2 players fight
    108-143 cards=3 players fight
    144-179 cards=4 players fight
    180-215 cards=5 players fight
    216-251 cards=6 players fight
    252-287 cards=7 players fight
    288+ cards=8 players fight
    All teams must maintain a sticky topic in their secret forum section that lists players in a numerical order from 1 to 8. This list tells the Warmasters the order in which the players will join a round in case the team has less than 270 cards. Teams are allowed to change the order at any time depending on their player availability.

    A team has 225 cards in the Vault at the start of a round. This means that 6 players from this team will fight during the round. Bill and Jack are both unavailable for this round, so the team has wisely edited their player list so that Bill and Jack are at spots 7 and 8.

    If the team doesn't change their player list, and Bill and Jack are at spots 1 and 2, both of them will be added to the player pool of that round, forcing the team to use substitutes. This is why it's important to keep the player list updated at all times.
    Opponents will be determined randomly by Warmasters using an online randomizer, with the constraint that no team will play another team more than once within a given round if possible. If there are uneven number of players fighting during a round, the team in last place (least amount of cards in the Vault) gets a bye, meaning that one player in that team will skip the round. If that team already had a bye during the previous round, the 2nd to last team gets a bye instead. No team may have a 2nd bye unless all other active teams have had at least 1 bye.

    Duel pairings will be made public by the Warmasters. The same topic will also have one Event Card. Event cards have a global effect, positive or negative, that will affect all the players during that round. There are a total of 24 Event Cards, arranged in a random order before the event starts.


    3.2. DECKBUILDING
    Teams will build one deck for each player who is fighting during the round. Team Deckbuilder is in charge of starting the topic that has all the deck discussions for each round, and ultimately the decks that the team will use. Note: decks have to be added in the first post of that topic to make organizers job easier. If the decks are lised in any other post than the first one, they are redeemed invalid and penalties will be issued.

    Deckbuilding rules:
    - Any mark
    - At least 50% of your cards have to be from your element
    - Regular players can use unupgraded cards only
    - Generals can use up to 6 upgraded cards (unupgraded cards taken from the Vault are transformed into upgraded ones)
    - Lieutenants can use up to 3 upgraded cards (unupgraded cards taken from the Vault are transformed into upgraded ones)
    - You cannot change your deck until the round is over

    Conversion Rule Teams now have the option to convert some of their cards. This means that they can replace any card in their Vault with a Pillar or a Pendulum of their element. Converting helps teams to avoid a situation where they would be otherwise forced to build "suicide" decks. Converting will be done by the Vault Organizer who posts on the Vault topic which cards are converted, and then editing the Vault. Teams can convert a maximum of 24 cards per round.

    Illegal Deck Rule
    If teams write "illegal" under their illegal deck in the round deck topic, they will automatically forfeit the match, BUT don't take the 6 card penalty for building an illegal deck. By adding "illegal", teams show that they knowingly built an illegal deck, and can prevent a situation where they would be forced to take a double penalty (both discarding because of a loss and a card penalty) for not being able to build enough legal decks.



    3.3. DUELS
    Players will contact their opponent and try to find a time that suits both. Players have 4 days to make the fight happen. If the fight doesn't happen, both players lose by default, unless one player is clearly more active in trying to find a suitable time. Warmasters will determine who the most active player is, and their word is final.

    We are using a "best-of-three" method, which means that each battle consists of up to 3 matches with the winner being the first player to get 2 wins. Remember, you have to play all duels with the same deck and the same mark.


    3.4. INACTIVE PLAYERS
    If it looks like a team member won't be able to fight during a round, the team has 3 options:

    1. Temporarily replace that team member with any other team member, including the General. Temporary replacement player will use the exact same deck and mark that the original player would have used. Replacements (Generals and Lieutenants included) use the same exact deck as recorded for that player including any upgraded cards. Penalty for using a replacement is that you cannot claim normal salvage if you win!

    2. Permanently replace the inactive member by buying any of the players that weren't bought during the auction phase. Price of the player is 6 cards. This new player joins the team as a full member, and stays with the team until the end of the event. A team can do this action only once during the whole War.

    3. Forfeit and take a loss.




    4. AFTER A BATTLE
    Winners salvage cards, losers discard them.


    4.1. WINNING A BATTLE
    Winner of the duel starts a new topic in the "Battle Results" section. For example if "KingKiller" from :air fights "LordOwner" from :water, and wins 2-1, he will start a topic titled:
    (Air) KingKiller 2 - (Water) LordOwner 1
    Other Examples
    (Air) Gen. KingKiller 2 - (Water) Lt. LordOwner 1 (indicate any titles that players have)
    (Air) KingKiller 2 - (Water) (Sub) LordOwner 1 (use SUB to indicate that someone else played instead of LordOwner)

    In that topic KingKiller will post his deck, and give a short explanation on how the battle went. LordOwner will then reply to that same topic posting his deck. He can also talk about the battle if he so chooses but that's optional. Everyone can join the discussion in any of these results topics.

    After each win, the team can salvage cards from the opponent. Winning team picks 6 cards from the deck posted by the losing player, which will be added to their Vault. These cards become part of the Vault and can be later used by anyone on that team. Salvaged cards are always unupped even if the original card is upped. Maximum card amount of 18 doesn't apply to salvaged cards.

    When you salvage cards, you are not really taking cards from the opponent, you are merely taking a copy of that card and putting it into your Vault. In Elements terms, you are using Parallel Universe on those cards.


    4.2. LOSING A BATTLE
    When a team loses a battle, they have to discard cards. The numbers of cards discarded is determined by the round number. The further the event goes, the more cards are discarded.

    ROUND 1: discard 6
    ROUND 2: discard 12
    ROUND 3: discard 18
    ROUND 4: discard 24
    ROUND 5: discard 30
    ROUND 6: discard 30
    ROUND 7: discard 30
    etc.

    Cards that are left in the deck after discarding, are returned back to Vault.




    5. ENDING A ROUND
    After all the battles have been fought, round ends and a new one begins. We continue until there is only one team left.




    6. WINNING THE WAR
    Winning team of War gets:
    - cool forum award icons
    - forum background image will be changed to show which element won (this was unfortunately skipped in War #1)
    - If the winning team General is also a Master of that element, he or she will either be crowned a Grand Master, or if there already is one, will have a chance to fight the current Grand Master for the title.




    7. OTHER RULES


    7.1. PENALTIES
    Penalties are issued when a team somehow breaks the rules or disrupts the event, either knowingly or by mistake. When a team gets a penalty, they have to, at the end of the round, remove a number of cards from their Vault. They can remove any cards they have in the Vault at that time, including the once they salvaged during that round.

    Minor penalty6 cardsSmall and harmless things like posting an illegal deck by mistake.
    Medium penalty12 cardsFor bigger infractions like not doing what they are supposed to do because of inactivity.
    Major penalty24 cardsFor major infractions like seriously disrupting the whole event.
    Penalties are easy to avoid by paying attention to details and double-checking everything before posting. Hopefully there won't be any need to issue penalties.




    To see how War happens in reality, please visit War #1 forum section: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,175.0.html . Some things were done differently during War #1 but the basic principle is the same.

    See you on the battlefield!
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    Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165359#msg165359
    « Reply #1 on: September 26, 2010, 10:54:20 pm »
    ummm, so is the winner suppose to post something when he wins the battle and where?

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    Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165368#msg165368
    « Reply #2 on: September 26, 2010, 11:09:34 pm »
    ummm, so is the winner suppose to post something when he wins the battle and where?
    It will be setup like the first war:  http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,166.0.html
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    Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165379#msg165379
    « Reply #3 on: September 26, 2010, 11:24:25 pm »
    shouldn't it also be mentioned on this set of rules also?

    Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165388#msg165388
    « Reply #4 on: September 26, 2010, 11:42:50 pm »
    I posted this somewhere else but would like to elaborate:
    Non duelling team members. They do not have to recieve any of the prizes, and do not have to be chosen at all by the generals. It is a risk, as they could do nothing, or unwittingly help the opponents teams. However if all goes to plan, they should be a complete secret from other teams.

    I think they should have to be approved by the general, who calls all the shots (he can allow as many as he/she wants, at the risk of secrecy), and then they will be allowed into their own teams threads.

    It is for people like me, who cannot allow themselves to compete due to changing times, and weird hours, but who want to be a part of a team, and participate in Elements biggest PVP event. I don't think they necessarily deserve any of the prizes for placing in war (or else everyone would ask to do it for a team that looks set to win) apart from maybe a reduced war bonus if they compete in the trials of that element is the General agrees they deserve it.

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    Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165504#msg165504
    « Reply #5 on: September 27, 2010, 06:21:58 am »
    I posted this somewhere else but would like to elaborate:
    Non duelling team members. They do not have to recieve any of the prizes, and do not have to be chosen at all by the generals. It is a risk, as they could do nothing, or unwittingly help the opponents teams. However if all goes to plan, they should be a complete secret from other teams.

    I think they should have to be approved by the general, who calls all the shots (he can allow as many as he/she wants, at the risk of secrecy), and then they will be allowed into their own teams threads.

    It is for people like me, who cannot allow themselves to compete due to changing times, and weird hours, but who want to be a part of a team, and participate in Elements biggest PVP event. I don't think they necessarily deserve any of the prizes for placing in war (or else everyone would ask to do it for a team that looks set to win) apart from maybe a reduced war bonus if they compete in the trials of that element is the General agrees they deserve it.
    Err, Light DID have a 7th member in first War, which helped a little with deckbuilding. In order to be a "helper", you can simply ask the General for the Vault and you're set to go. It's that easy.
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    Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165561#msg165561
    « Reply #6 on: September 27, 2010, 09:04:07 am »
    What is "Regular Player"? We all play Elements regularly! :))
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    Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165565#msg165565
    « Reply #7 on: September 27, 2010, 09:21:10 am »
    I posted this somewhere else but would like to elaborate:
    Non duelling team members. They do not have to recieve any of the prizes, and do not have to be chosen at all by the generals. It is a risk, as they could do nothing, or unwittingly help the opponents teams. However if all goes to plan, they should be a complete secret from other teams.

    I think they should have to be approved by the general, who calls all the shots (he can allow as many as he/she wants, at the risk of secrecy), and then they will be allowed into their own teams threads.

    It is for people like me, who cannot allow themselves to compete due to changing times, and weird hours, but who want to be a part of a team, and participate in Elements biggest PVP event. I don't think they necessarily deserve any of the prizes for placing in war (or else everyone would ask to do it for a team that looks set to win) apart from maybe a reduced war bonus if they compete in the trials of that element is the General agrees they deserve it.
    Err, Light DID have a 7th member in first War, which helped a little with deckbuilding. In order to be a "helper", you can simply ask the General for the Vault and you're set to go. It's that easy.
    Wait.. what?

    You are not supposed to give Vault access to ANYONE outside your team. Furthermore, you are not allowed to talk about any team secrets with ANYONE outside your team.

    In War #2 this would be considered a very serious infraction that might lead to the whole team getting disqualified.

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    Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165566#msg165566
    « Reply #8 on: September 27, 2010, 09:23:01 am »
    I posted this somewhere else but would like to elaborate:
    Non duelling team members. They do not have to recieve any of the prizes, and do not have to be chosen at all by the generals. It is a risk, as they could do nothing, or unwittingly help the opponents teams. However if all goes to plan, they should be a complete secret from other teams.

    I think they should have to be approved by the general, who calls all the shots (he can allow as many as he/she wants, at the risk of secrecy), and then they will be allowed into their own teams threads.

    It is for people like me, who cannot allow themselves to compete due to changing times, and weird hours, but who want to be a part of a team, and participate in Elements biggest PVP event. I don't think they necessarily deserve any of the prizes for placing in war (or else everyone would ask to do it for a team that looks set to win) apart from maybe a reduced war bonus if they compete in the trials of that element is the General agrees they deserve it.
    Err, Light DID have a 7th member in first War, which helped a little with deckbuilding. In order to be a "helper", you can simply ask the General for the Vault and you're set to go. It's that easy.
    Wait.. what?

    You are not supposed to give Vault access to ANYONE outside your team. Furthermore, you are not allowed to talk about any team secrets with ANYONE outside your team.
    Err, I thought it was more like "don't tell opponent teams what you do", rather than "don't ask help from other players".
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    Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165567#msg165567
    « Reply #9 on: September 27, 2010, 09:26:38 am »
    I posted this somewhere else but would like to elaborate:
    Non duelling team members. They do not have to recieve any of the prizes, and do not have to be chosen at all by the generals. It is a risk, as they could do nothing, or unwittingly help the opponents teams. However if all goes to plan, they should be a complete secret from other teams.

    I think they should have to be approved by the general, who calls all the shots (he can allow as many as he/she wants, at the risk of secrecy), and then they will be allowed into their own teams threads.

    It is for people like me, who cannot allow themselves to compete due to changing times, and weird hours, but who want to be a part of a team, and participate in Elements biggest PVP event. I don't think they necessarily deserve any of the prizes for placing in war (or else everyone would ask to do it for a team that looks set to win) apart from maybe a reduced war bonus if they compete in the trials of that element is the General agrees they deserve it.
    Err, Light DID have a 7th member in first War, which helped a little with deckbuilding. In order to be a "helper", you can simply ask the General for the Vault and you're set to go. It's that easy.
    Wait.. what?

    You are not supposed to give Vault access to ANYONE outside your team. Furthermore, you are not allowed to talk about any team secrets with ANYONE outside your team.
    Err, I thought it was more like "don't tell opponent teams what you do", rather than "don't ask help from other players".
    You don't have to be Einstein to figure out how a system like that could be easily exploited, so it's definitely not allowed.

    Geldon

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    Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165633#msg165633
    « Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 01:56:59 pm »
    Just a stupid question: I upgraded all my rare cards and nymphs, so that means I cannot use them during war unless I get another non-upgraded version of them, right?

    TheoCT

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    Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165636#msg165636
    « Reply #11 on: September 27, 2010, 02:01:29 pm »
    Just a stupid question: I upgraded all my rare cards and nymphs, so that means I cannot use them during war unless I get another non-upgraded version of them, right?
    Correct. I upgraded one of my nymphs so it's useless in the war.

     

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