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~~ War #3 - Round 4 Match Results and Countdown ~~ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25379.msg322964#msg322964
« on: April 29, 2011, 09:27:18 pm »
Duels: 47/47
The Duel Phase has ended.
Battle Results:
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1:lifepromwarm2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25710.0.html):gravity(Sub) killsdazombies1-24
2:gravity(Sub) seraph2+0vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25712.0.html):deathSteppingStone810-24
3:lightkirchj332+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25669.0.html):gravityGen. thenewguy0-24
4:watertikotribe2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25612.0.html):gravity(Sub) einherjar1450-24
5:gravityLt. TStar2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25548.0.html):timeLt. Jen-i1-24
6:aetherwillng32+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25727.0.html):gravity(Sub) Malebolgia0-24
7:airNoobiecakes2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25718.0.html):lighthrmmm0-24
8:darknessJaymanfu2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25572.0.html):lightLt. ak65ala1-24
9:lightZblader2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25652.0.html):earth(Sub) $$$man1-24
10:aetherdeuce222+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25663.0.html):entropyDSSCRA1-24
11:earthSpielkind2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25628.0.html):airomegareaper70-24
12:entropy3D House of Beef2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25557.0.html):liferalouf11-24
13:lifeFalcon44152+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25644.0.html):deathDm13210-24
14:fireLava Golem2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25697.0.html):entropy10 men0-24
15:aetherGen. Higurashi2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25647.0.html):lightRootRanger0-24
16:entropy(Sub) BatCountry2+0vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25728.0.html):deathLt. kevkev606141-24
17:airGen. QuantumT2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25634.0.html):entropyShantu1-24
18:entropyLt. vagman132+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25630.0.html):time(Sub) Azumi1-24
19:darknessmrpaper2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25605.0.html):aetherUTAlan0-24
20:airHisar2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25589.0.html):darknessOnizuka1-24
21:time(Sub) Gl1tch2+0vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25696.0.html):lifeIsei1-24
22:deathGen. MrBlonde2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25626.0.html):time(Sub) Gen. SpikeSpiegel0-24
23:fireDogg2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25621.0.html):airLt. Amilir0-24
24:death(Sub) Marvaddin2+0vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25622.0.html):airThe Mormegil0-24
25:earthAcsabi442+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25649.0.html):firecatalyzeme0-24
26:air(NSub) truddy022+3vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25741.0.html):lifePlayerOa1-24
27:death(Sub) xdude2+0vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25746.0.html):fireSvenningen1-24
28:waterGen. RavingRabbid2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25564.0.html):lifeGen. wizelsnarf0-24
29:fireLegit2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25666.0.html):aetherEngPhys0-24
30:timecrimsonflippa2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25592.0.html):darknesssuxerz0-24
31:lifeLt. wavedash2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25597.0.html):aetherYoungSot0-24
32:waterBootsza2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25703.0.html):airjippy990-24
33:fireLt. majofa2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25603.0.html):lifeedunavas0-24
34:fireGen. Napalm Grenade2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25638.0.html):waterLt. nilsieboy1-24
35:darknessLt. Wizardcat2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25579.0.html):earthLt. Terroking0-24
36:lightBoingo2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25587.0.html):watervinvick37140-24
37:deathxn0ize2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25549.0.html):earthTimerClock140-24
38:lightGen. coinich2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25730.0.html):death(Sub) Daxx0-24
39:darknessGen. TheonlyrealBeef2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25561.0.html):firegavsword0-24
40:aetherLt. pikachufan21642+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25678.0.html):time(Sub)drogana0-24
41:waterThe dictator2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25632.0.html):earthAvenger0-24
42:lightvaluka2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25543.0.html):timeSnoWeb0-24
43:timeDevilloss2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25693.new.html#new):wateraznkid660-24
44:entropyBluePriest2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25641.0.html):darknessMithcairion1-24
45:water(N) Jappert2+3vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25695.0.html):darkness(Sub)Malignant0-24
46:aetherEvaRia2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25707.0.html):earthKamietsu1-24
47:earthGen. Kakerlake2+6vs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25542.0.html):entropyGen. Zeru0-24
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ElementTotalDuels (47)WLM
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:fire-42853
:light-42853
:water-51853-9
:darkness-72844
:entropy-84844-12
:death-90844-18
:gravity-90624-6
:life-102835
:earth-108835-6
:time-108835-6
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PENALTIES
:water Vault Penalty -6
:earth Vault Penalty -6
:air DeckEdit Penalty -12
:air Vault Penalty -6
:air Vault Penalty -6
:air DeckEdit Penalty -12
:air Inactivity Penalty -12
:death Replacement Player -6
:entropy Vault Penalty -6
Penalties are explained in detail HERE (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25324.0.html#notes)

Total = The adjustment to Vault this round due to all changes.
W = Wins
L = Losses
M = Modifiers from Events, Penalties and Other things.

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Re: ~~ War #3 - Round 4 Match Results and Countdown ~~ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25379.msg323698#msg323698
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2011, 08:47:35 pm »
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Re: ~~ War #3 - Round 4 Match Results and Countdown ~~ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25379.msg323793#msg323793
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2011, 10:42:07 pm »
Well, that certainly is a great morale boost....

I'd rather lose a match then this.

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Re: ~~ War #3 - Round 4 Match Results and Countdown ~~ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25379.msg323809#msg323809
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2011, 11:06:31 pm »
Well, that certainly is a great morale boost....

I'd rather lose a match then this.
That's tough dude. And I agree, it would be better to just lose a match. (you see, that way water would be out of 24 cards instead of just 6! I like that situation a lot better.  :P)

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Re: ~~ War #3 - Round 4 Match Results and Countdown ~~ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25379.msg324099#msg324099
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2011, 11:58:58 am »
In each round one or more teams receive some kind of vault penalty. Salvaging too much, using cards they don't have, salvaging too little.
Can't we really play fair?
I am really glad that the Warmasters keep an eye on the event.

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Re: ~~ War #3 - Round 4 Match Results and Countdown ~~ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25379.msg324110#msg324110
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2011, 12:23:17 pm »
In each round one or more teams receive some kind of vault penalty. Salvaging too much, using cards they don't have, salvaging too little.
Can't we really play fair?
I am really glad that the Warmasters keep an eye on the event.
Sorry.
We may miscount, but we can make excellent pineapple pies out of sand.


Also, you accused at least 8 players of cheating. How nice.
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Re: ~~ War #3 - Round 4 Match Results and Countdown ~~ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25379.msg324142#msg324142
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 01:49:50 pm »
In each round one or more teams receive some kind of vault penalty. Salvaging too much, using cards they don't have, salvaging too little.
Can't we really play fair?
I am really glad that the Warmasters keep an eye on the event.
I don't know what you're implying, but I don't like your attitude.
We made a slight unintended miscount. Calling us cheats would be very disrespectful and unfair.

I'm really glad I'm not in team Entropy.

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Re: ~~ War #3 - Round 4 Match Results and Countdown ~~ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25379.msg324427#msg324427
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2011, 07:05:11 pm »
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We made a slight unintended miscount. Calling us cheats would be very disrespectful and unfair.
Whether you did it intentionally or not, you have cheated.

I will not remove that post even if you feel offended. I am not saying that you wanted to cheat, but the facts are that there was a reason for you to be punished.
Mistakes like this benefit your team. Why exactly should your team benefit in having a different vault just because you can't do your salvage/discard correctly?
The Warmasters did a great job finding this error out.

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An Audit of Water's Vault has Discovered a discrepancy in the Round 3 Vault and received Penalty 6 cards.
Jappert, you are not in a position to defend yourself. Your team has done something illegal with the vault and that is it.

My post was not meant to judge you or whatever you think I did. My intention was to give the Warmasters a praise and say: "Keep up the good work". I also wanted to encourage players to play according to the rules and doing as little errors as possible.
In my opinion teams should not lose cards due to silly penalties but because they lost in battle. But errors happen, and your team should not deny that your team has erred. This is supposed to be an elite event, perhaps the hardest of them all, let's be more mature and play like a veteran should.

That is why I won't apologize. And you should not cause unneeded drama. Errors happen, you paid a price for it. End of topic.
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You sure? You would be in a team that gets along really well and does absolutely no errors in their deck building phase. And we have some really interesting people there ;)

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Re: ~~ War #3 - Round 4 Match Results and Countdown ~~ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25379.msg324452#msg324452
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2011, 07:24:54 pm »
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We made a slight unintended miscount. Calling us cheats would be very disrespectful and unfair.
Whether you did it intentionally or not, you have cheated.

And it is still disrespectful and unfair when you don't even know half of the story.

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Mistakes like this benefit your team.
Where is said they do?

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An Audit of Water's Vault has Discovered a discrepancy in the Round 3 Vault and received Penalty 6 cards.
Jappert, you are not in a position to defend yourself. Your team has done something illegal with the vault and that is it.
He is not saying anything to defend himself against the penalty, he his defending himself against your quite hard insinuations, and he has the right to do so.

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My post was not meant to judge you or whatever you think I did. My intention was to give the Warmasters a praise and say: "Keep up the good work". I also wanted to encourage players to play according to the rules and doing as little errors as possible.
First, then you might want to phase it in another way. Second, what do you think we are trying to do.

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Errors happen, you paid a price for it. End of topic.
Errors, right, that isn't necessarily cheating.

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I'm really glad I'm not in team Entropy.
I completely share this opinion. I respected you, but that is over after I read your post.



Edit:
Post below, I couldn't have said it more clearly.
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Re: ~~ War #3 - Round 4 Match Results and Countdown ~~ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25379.msg324515#msg324515
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2011, 08:23:31 pm »
Come on, this is a game. Most of the mistakes were not beneficial to the team, yet, the penalties are rightfully there. Events like this need a strict judge. It is a job cut out for Kael for sure :)
Our job is to keep the rules AND pwn the opponent, on the battlefield, not in the forums.

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Re: ~~ War #3 - Round 4 Match Results and Countdown ~~ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25379.msg324567#msg324567
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2011, 09:37:02 pm »
The dictator, I explained my intentions as following:
1) Motivating teams to make less errors.
2) Praising Warmasters for their hard work.

What exactly are you criticizing? Bad choice of words?

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Re: ~~ War #3 - Round 4 Match Results and Countdown ~~ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25379.msg324595#msg324595
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2011, 10:03:00 pm »
Yes, I did criticize your bad choice of words, as you did accuse at least 3 teams of unfair play, without knowing what actually happened.
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