A few details about T500

[phaedrus]

Just and idea, and maybe this would be hard to make happen, but I would LOVE to be able to play as the deck I submit to league.
You could have some people waiting to play games vs people who want to play bronze/silver/gold/platinum, and then part of the deal when you enter league is that you don't know whether you're facing AI or a real opponent it would be could.
Ya, it would slow down people trying to farm, but whatever.

[Picheleiro]

Just and idea, and maybe this would be hard to make happen, but I would LOVE to be able to play as the deck I submit to league.
You could have some people waiting to play games vs people who want to play bronze/silver/gold/platinum, and then part of the deal when you enter league is that you don't know whether you're facing AI or a real opponent it would be could.
Ya, it would slow down people trying to farm, but whatever.

Its insane the rise of the troubles from the guy who is farming. You can win some decks only because the retarded AI.

[ffun]

+1 for adding a ranking list of each league, so it's easier to compare your deck standing against others.

Besides that, if we'll be playing against Platinum League for the challenge as much as for the reward, it would also be nice if we could have a "league killer ladder", listing the top 50 players daily, weekly and all time W-L stats against decks in a certaing league. Would that be too hard? At the very least, it would be great for bragging rights.

[kev]

Why not make it so that if you spin the oracle it resets your deck? Simple solution.

This might promote players not visiting the Oracle.

But I like the idea of your deck resetting either when you revisit the Oracle or 24 hours, whichever comes first.  This would benefit people who play every day without really punishing those who don't.  It'd create extra motivation to log on every day and it'd create greater variety in decks seen.

However, I am thinking about increasing the card limit to 35 when building an arena deck (as in 5 from the oracle, 30 from you), this should eliminate some of the most boring decks built around only 3 cards (plus quanta generators).

I agree that something needs to be done to weaken decks, specifically Platinum.  I played a game where I was given one pillar in my opening hand and was literally never able to play it.  "If you think platinum is too hard and frustrating... well, do not click on it" isn't a good solution.  I recognize that more people are playing Platinum than Gold now, but if enough players take your advice players with Platinum decks will be punished because they won't get as many hits as a Gold league player.

[wavedash]

I had a post about my thoughts on Platinum earlier, but I edited it away because I thought I was confused about something.

Platinum is dumb. It is nigh-impossible without luck or a perfect deck counter to win against a moderately good Platinum deck. Platinum decks are like False Gods, except the decks are actually good. The fact that you can add a ton of Shards of Gratitude and Divinity without noticeably slowing down your deck (thanks to double draws) alone makes it a headache.

[Rastafla]

As it is Platinum needs to be reworked. Its pointless to play it.
I currently find bronze and silver the most entertaining as in winnable to get the amount of wins needed with some ease within reason. Bronze and silver i grade like the AI3 and old t50 with the occasional power brick deck.
Gold is a challenge but in the same was as Halfbloods its not worth it in any way when you have FGs. Fon for a while and for a rare now and then but generally no.

The luck/bad luck factor basically ensure a loss in all leagues but bronze silver so they are pointless to farm when you have other options.

[ilovecandy]

As it is Platinum needs to be reworked. Its pointless to play it.
I currently find bronze and silver the most entertaining as in winnable to get the amount of wins needed with some ease within reason. Bronze and silver i grade like the AI3 and old t50 with the occasional power brick deck.
Gold is a challenge but in the same was as Halfbloods its not worth it in any way when you have FGs. Fon for a while and for a rare now and then but generally no.

The luck/bad luck factor basically ensure a loss in all leagues but bronze silver so they are pointless to farm when you have other options.

I'll just copy all of those main points without rephrasing them. that's exactly what I'm feeling. Both the good, the bad and the ugly (/Platinum ^^)

[wavedash]

Perhaps one incentive for playing in Platinum could be increased rewards for decks that do well (not necessarily the best) in Platinum, and decreased penalties to decks that lose. That way, players have a reason to try to strike down other Platinum decks, with the profit from having your deck in Platinum outweighing (to some degree) the electrum you lose.

Of course, this doesn't quite address the fact that Platinum decks are stupidly good, but it's something, I guess.

[Hodari]

As it is Platinum needs to be reworked. Its pointless to play it.

The luck/bad luck factor basically ensure a loss in all leagues but bronze silver so they are pointless to farm when you have other options.

  I've gained about 15k score and at least that much electrum since the beta was released, nearly all of that from farming Platinum with some gold and occasional matches against silver and bronze, so...it's not THAT bad to say the least .  Most of those wins came with either CCYB or RoL Hope, so probably many of the top FG decks will do well there also.  You do have to prepared to accept that you will lose a LOT but the few wins you do get will more than make up for it.  Even with about a 10% win rate, you can still come out ahead.

  I do agree that certain cards will need to be banned/restricted/nerfed/modified somehow to keep them from being abused.   12 steals or explosions + fully upped deck means most of your permanents are gone the second they hit the board and 12 silences can easily mean you never get to play anything in the first place.  So there certainly are some balance issues that need to be addressed but...I wouldn't go so far as saying the whole thing is pointless.  What might also help would be is if people start posting a few of the top decks they run into and any effective counters to that deck that they find.  This would at least mean it won't be the same decks constantly dominating and will force people on both sides to constantly change strategies.

[jmdt]

The reward for platinum just needs to be higher.  If the rewards are good enough, smart folk around here will find decks that get a decenty win rate eventually.

[lskpiano]

I'm really liking the Arena. It suits my style of play very well. I like the unpredictability of PVP decks but dislike synchronous, real time, "face to face" PVP. This has the best of both. I was starting to get bored playing False Gods, but now I have a whole new set of goals to achieve!

Thanks,
LSK Piano

[Marvaddin]

Something Im thinking about. If someone goes back to menu after looking at your deck, that person receive a loss, but does your deck receive a win? Earlier today I submited a deck with Hope as base card, and triple Aether mark that can scare a lot of people, lol. Like 10 hours later, just 8 games played, thats strange. Dunno about it, but should of course count as a victory to the deck if people refuse to play vs it.