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Re: Stop making farms. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16417.msg210930#msg210930
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2010, 04:46:07 pm »
All I have to say is, if it wasn't for farms, i would have ragequitted Elements, the game a long, long time ago. Grinding, as of today, is unbearably slow.
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Re: Stop making farms. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16417.msg211118#msg211118
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2010, 08:53:17 pm »
Couldn't have said it better. So kids, beware if you see me in Top50, I'm gonna bite, and when I bite, I bite HARD! >:D

PS. Miracle/SoR Harm coming next.
I'm a big believer in challenging t50 decks too.  :)
I like the current system of I'll put a farm when I feel like and I'll put a harm when I feel like. Discord/BH stall coming up.

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Re: Stop making farms. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16417.msg211124#msg211124
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2010, 09:12:38 pm »
Stop making farms?  Tell zanz to stop making farmable rares.

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Re: Stop making farms. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16417.msg211570#msg211570
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2010, 10:50:37 am »
When it was 1.14, I remember myself grinding AI1 to find a second lobotomizer, which was fun.
First of all... what?! ??? Are you sure you do not confuse "fun" with that similar to pride feeling you get when you went through something utterly horrible and survived it?

Secondly... v.1.14 Elements was a different game than it is now. Upgrades as well as False Gods did not exist. This meant on the one hand that rare-hunting was the only endgame content (aside from score/money grinding). On the other hand the lack of upgraded cards meant that Top50 was beatable for complete Newbies, and even when you couldn't beat them you could grind an hour or two and just copy their deck. So it made sense to put up your best decks there. Nowadays when a noob clicks Top50 and plays against a serious deck (i.e. fully upped), he not only gets an abysmal winrate, it's also very inspirational (irony), he only has to grind FGs for so many weeks to make that deck, but unfortunately that option only exists in theory, because all the FG-farmers use rares, and where is he supposed to get them from when no one in Top50 provides them? Do we want to require noobs to grind AI3 for multiple weeks before they can fight FGs?
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Re: Stop making farms. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16417.msg211680#msg211680
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2010, 02:15:59 pm »
Funny. There are people asking for farms and now asking to NOT make farms.

It's going to be hard to convince people to not make farms just as it is hard to convince them to make farms. Good luck on that.

In the meantime, I guess I'll switch my titan/discord farm into something drastically annoying...
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Re: Stop making farms. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16417.msg211692#msg211692
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2010, 02:31:20 pm »
I still farm AI3 for the rares. Also, now that you have most rares - this might be rude, so forgive me - it might be understandable you ask for them to stop farms. You could convince them to make it all HARMS, but the rare-giveaway would not stop. Also, there are rares the  T50 refuses to use, as in, poseidon (you almost don't see it), fahrenheit, Morning Glory, SoG's are hard to get, SoR's are hard to get, Arsenics are rare to get, Titans are meh, And it changes everyday.

As it has been said, no one wants to grind the AI3 for 1 month just to build a FG farmer.


For example, one of the best farmers, CCYB, uses 6 SoG's. Where would newbies (A.K.A me and a few others) would get them besides t50 with a GOOD rate?

Also, if I ever, ever get to t50, I will but Harms and Farms, thinking on how much they helped me in the start, and I will hope to help the newcomers too. That said, with the upped cards, t50 itself is pretty hard to beat depending on the deck. Not all decks in T50 are farms or harms.

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Re: Stop making farms. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16417.msg213741#msg213741
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2010, 06:28:51 pm »
i am a noob and i greatly enjoy farms, however, i also feel that most farms are to boring. i would prefer that every single T50 deck was a HARM than half were fg grinders and half were farms.
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Re: Stop making farms. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16417.msg213802#msg213802
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2010, 07:56:16 pm »
I've just been lazy lately so i just have non-biting farms up the majority of time but i really should mix it up. But like they say, you can't make everybody happy.

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Re: Stop making farms. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16417.msg213827#msg213827
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2010, 08:28:29 pm »
Well here is my 2 cents not that it matters. :P
I have tons of time in the day but I don't like to grind that often, I have better things to do than elements. That being said I enjoy a challenge and there lot's of them on top 50, however I like rares as well. After playing so many hard games getting a farm can be a nice reward. those that have all the rares they want prolly hate farms, and I understand that fully, but for those of us without a full set of upped and unupped rares and not a whole lot of time to grind top 50 is something really nice to have.
Top 50 is a challenge as there alot of different decks on it sometimes, and getting a farm now and again is good too. As long as farms don't get insane then it's ok.
Also I bet top 50 has gotten alot of people stay in this game when they were going to quit, so some farms is a good thing.

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Re: Stop making farms. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16417.msg214109#msg214109
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2010, 02:57:10 am »
farming is already hard.

i really appreciate good farms from the top 50. thanks guys.

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Re: Stop making farms. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16417.msg214119#msg214119
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2010, 03:13:11 am »
but for those of us without a full set of upped and unupped rares and not a whole lot of time to grind top 50 is something really nice to have.
This is why I like farms, and put them up myself. I still don't have a full set of unupped rares (the upped set I do have), I get plenty of upped rares that I sell from fgs, since I already have 6, but I don't even have 6 stilettos >_< (the rare from my favorite element)

When I face top 50 myself all I get is bleh "biting farms" (or whatever it is kids call it these days) and no rares (I'd be happy if I faced farms the same percentage of time I have a farm up :))), making me go straight back to grinding fgs since they at least gives me electrum.....

The occasional farm I do encounter is much appreciated.

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Re: Stop making farms. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16417.msg214154#msg214154
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2010, 04:24:18 am »
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but I don't even have 6 stilettos >_< (the rare from my favorite element)
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