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Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15290.msg195487#msg195487
« on: November 07, 2010, 02:17:28 am »
Duel phase has started
:death Mastermind79
:fire Stinnger
:life Wizelsnarf
:death Malduk
:aether mrpaper
:death home_wreckaz
:life Daxx
:death Shantu
:entropy xKelevra
:death Xuru
:water RavingRabbid
:death smuglapse
:air truddy02
:death Nume
:death MrBlonde
:darkness 9270984
:aether Boingo
:death Corrum
Round 3 - Decks

MrBlonde
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Malduk
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Xuru
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smuglapse
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Nume
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Corrum
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Mastermind79
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Shantu
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home_wreckaz
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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15290.msg195494#msg195494
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2010, 02:30:19 am »
Here are the first ideas for decks.

Vs :water - Discords probably. They used :fire deck already against us and lost. They'll likely expect bonewalls now, so I doubt they will have deflags.

Vs :entropy - Tough nut. Dissipation, AM and Purify - we cannot break this. Unless we take fire and explode those shields. Pots for CC (for our own creatures too). Another option would be deck them out maybe with miracles.

Vs :aether (2 decks) - They are not very engaged in the war. I wouldnt be surprised if they field that water deck again once. :earth with EQs for one deck, :darkness with Steals for other deck seems okay.

Vs :fire - No idea what they have in the vault, have to check that first. They are not doing so great this time. Some poison deck could work here, with some shields for stall.

Vs :darkness - They got loads of cards from salvages, so are not as predictable as before (not that darkness was ever easily predictable anyway). Rush with CC? Caparace would be funny. No idea yet.

Vs :air - Whatever we have left in the Vault that works :D Could be a good time for those Pheonixes we'll salvage. Plagues to get rid of possible Flies, or Firestorm. We'll have to see how many :fire cards we'll have left.

Vs :life (2 decks) - Since both me and MrBlonde packed shields with CC, my guess is that they will take some perma control cards here now. They have loads of Deflags in the Vault. I'd maybe take a rush for myself as I get to upgrade 3 (maybe Graboids to be sure to outrush :life), and have Shantu use Bonewalls with mix of poison and creatures.
Im going with fire. Deflagration will help against discord/shield and rage potions will destroy every creature they may have.

Vs :life i would mix rush with some CC

Vs :aether i would take one with EQ and the second one beath rush with steals.

Vs :water discord can be very useful. Whatever you are going to face, they are nearly always heavy on quanta

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15290.msg195682#msg195682
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2010, 09:52:51 am »
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How is this? Perhaps more plagues? Plague > Adrenaline > Bonewall

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15290.msg195746#msg195746
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2010, 01:02:10 pm »
I updated this post with "final" versions.

VS :darkness (MrBlonde)

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VS :life 1 (Malduk)

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VS :life 2 (Shantu)

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VS :water (Smuglapse)

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VS :aether 1 (home_wreckaz)

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VS :aether 2 (corrum)

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VS :air (Nume) (Its a weakish deck... so is the fire deck due to quanta issues. However, both have a chance to win, I'm really unsure which one to take)

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VS :fire (Mastermind) (Should stop rush, tricky against Bolt decks)

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Sheet for card count updated.

Leftover :death cards:

15 bone pillar
13 pendulum
2 bone dragon
8 spider
2 skull shield
6 poison   
1 bonewall
3 mummy
4 death stalker
4 arsenic







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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15290.msg195763#msg195763
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2010, 01:35:33 pm »
Looking at those decks... we may be low on some cards :D Maybe Phase shield deckout/Fractal deck could be used somewhere.

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15290.msg195906#msg195906
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2010, 06:39:43 pm »
If nobody uses light i may go for a deckout/stall. Use all 12 light cards, upp the miracles and holy lights, 6 plagues 5 bonewalls 15-16 towers, maybe some poisons. Might have to go lower on the towers though depending on our decks.

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15290.msg195964#msg195964
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2010, 08:04:40 pm »
If nobody uses light i may go for a deckout/stall. Use all 12 light cards, upp the miracles and holy lights, 6 plagues 5 bonewalls 15-16 towers, maybe some poisons. Might have to go lower on the towers though depending on our decks.
Looking at round 2 decks they made, they are either graboid rush rainbows (which that type of stall *might* beat), fractal deck (where you lose), or EQ/pest quanta denial (where you also lose). It is quite possible they will go with Graboids again to unlock Purify. Maybe Fog with Shockwaves to keep things cheap, 3 Holy Flash maybe, Upped spiders? If against that Graboid rainbow, we must put pressure on their HP so they cant wait to evolve them all at the same time.

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15290.msg195969#msg195969
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2010, 08:12:00 pm »
If nobody uses light i may go for a deckout/stall. Use all 12 light cards, upp the miracles and holy lights, 6 plagues 5 bonewalls 15-16 towers, maybe some poisons. Might have to go lower on the towers though depending on our decks.
Looking at round 2 decks they made, they are either graboid rush rainbows (which that type of stall *might* beat), fractal deck (where you lose), or EQ/pest quanta denial (where you also lose). It is quite possible they will go with Graboids again to unlock Purify. Maybe Fog with Shockwaves to keep things cheap, 3 Holy Flash maybe, Upped spiders? If against that Graboid rainbow, we must put pressure on their HP so they cant wait to evolve them all at the same time.
Not home right now but have been thinking about this matchup.  I completely forgot about graboids. I could make a mass CC deck with plagues shockwaves and 3 holy flash with bonewalls. For graboids a great deck would probably be a fractal/lightning. Course devourers hurt that deck pretty bad. Hmmmm.

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15290.msg195977#msg195977
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2010, 08:19:07 pm »
Yeah, they have 3 sets of that boring graboid rainbow... 2 sets of EQs, and then there's that boring fractal dev deck. :darkness is really annoying element.

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15290.msg196035#msg196035
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2010, 09:47:44 pm »
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Ok, this is it for now, unless I get to know something, this will stay. Probably needs a bit more testing, but it's fast and cool.

Blonde, could you sticky please the deck preparation spreadsheet? It's handy I suppose.

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15290.msg196161#msg196161
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2010, 12:47:35 am »
My deck could be also considered done now. I need someone to playtest with after Shantu goes to sleep to see how others work though  :P

After I filled MrBlondes spreadsheet with 2 :aether , 2: life , :air and :water deck, we're left with 0 dragons, 4 walls and 5 mummies.  ??? Other cards are good. So, we'll have to look for alternatives to free up some cards...
Looking through :water matches, I'd say we can field several decks there and still have about the same chance to hit or miss. I'd expect them to go with either Ice Bolt / Miracle stall, or with some type of semi rush like Toads/Dragons.

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15290.msg196398#msg196398
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2010, 05:43:48 am »
v. entropy, speed poison?
v. life, bonewall-plague
v. water, stall
v. fire, ???
v. aether, looks like the decks we have should work

 

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