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Fly | Fly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8697.msg101058#msg101058
« on: June 25, 2010, 09:40:09 pm »
NAME:
Fly
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
3 :air
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
ABILITY:
The target creature becomes Airborne and gains the skill Dive. The cost varies by its attack power.
NAME:
Fly
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
2 :air
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
ABILITY:
The target creature becomes Airborne and gains the skill Dive. The cost varies by its attack power.
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NOTES:
The card gives Pegasus or Wyrm's dive ability to the target airborne creature. The ability cost is as follows:

The ability costs Air quanta. Using the quanta of the creature's element is OP.

For the unupgraded, the dive ability cost is (Creature's attack power / 3 ) Rounded down. For example, Azure Dragon with 9 attack power needs 3 air quanta to activate its dive ability. Sky Dragon with 13 attack power would have to pay 4.

For the upgraded, the cost is (Creature's attack power / 4) Rounded down. For example, Azure Dragon now has to pay 2 quanta, and Sky Dragon 3.

If this card is to be implemented in game, another mechanic has to be implemented; when a creature with dive (which obviously is airborne) is webbed by a spider/recluse, it loses its dive ability.
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Re: Fly | Fly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8697.msg101071#msg101071
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2010, 09:56:00 pm »
Synergy with Air, balanced cost, balanced ability.

Perfect. :)

This card is actually something that Air needs right now IMO.

But, if the cost is variable, you shouldn't write that it costs 3 quanta. I would just leave it blank.

EDIT: Oh, it's the ability cost. Sorry, my reading skill is somehow nerfed at midnight. :S

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Re: Fly | Fly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8697.msg101074#msg101074
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2010, 09:59:28 pm »
I'm confused.

If a Sky Dragon has 13 attack power and has Fly casted on it, wouldn't it cost 4 :air

13 / 3 = 4.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

Rounded down is 4.

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Re: Fly | Fly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8697.msg101083#msg101083
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2010, 10:09:59 pm »
Should say "Target gains the passive skill: Airborne".

Why would you cast a card called Fly on a creature that's already definitionally flying?
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Re: Fly | Fly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8697.msg101101#msg101101
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 10:28:29 pm »
I'm confused.

If a Sky Dragon has 13 attack power and has Fly casted on it, wouldn't it cost 4 :air

13 / 3 = 4.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

Rounded down is 4.
Isn't that what I wrote...?


Should say "Target gains the passive skill: Airborne".

Why would you cast a card called Fly on a creature that's already definitionally flying?
I was thinking about it, but giving Airborne status makes this card too situational (only useful against Wings)

What if I make it so that it gives Airborne status AND also that dive ability? Would you like it?

(But then it sounds weird if some creatures like... FROGS can fly...)

Maybe I should change the name?
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Re: Fly | Fly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8697.msg101134#msg101134
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 10:59:44 pm »
For the unupgraded, the dive ability cost is (Creature's attack power / 3 ) Rounded down. For example, Azure Dragon with 9 attack power needs 3 air quanta to activate its dive ability. Sky Dragon with 13 attack power would have to pay 5.

For the upgraded, the cost is (Creature's attack power / 4) Rounded down. For example, Azure Dragon still has to pay 3 quanta, but Sky Dragon 4.
13/3 = 4.3333 or 4 You said 5.
13/4 = 3.25 or 3, You said 4.
Both those #'s are rounded up but in the description it says "rounded down." Which one is it?

I think it should be rounded down.

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Re: Fly | Fly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8697.msg101152#msg101152
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 11:18:41 pm »
For the unupgraded, the dive ability cost is (Creature's attack power / 3 ) Rounded down. For example, Azure Dragon with 9 attack power needs 3 air quanta to activate its dive ability. Sky Dragon with 13 attack power would have to pay 5.

For the upgraded, the cost is (Creature's attack power / 4) Rounded down. For example, Azure Dragon still has to pay 3 quanta, but Sky Dragon 4.
13/3 = 4.3333 or 4 You said 5.
13/4 = 3.25 or 3, You said 4.
Both those #'s are rounded up but in the description it says "rounded down." Which one is it?

I think it should be rounded down.
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Re: Fly | Fly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8697.msg101154#msg101154
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 11:21:15 pm »
Yeah, I think it should give Airborne AND Dive.

Yep.
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Re: Fly | Fly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8697.msg101658#msg101658
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2010, 08:18:56 pm »
As Essence said, I changed the card so that it gives Airborne status, too.

However, as I mentioned in the notes, if a spider or a recluse webs a creature with Dive, it will lose its ability.
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Re: Fly | Fly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8697.msg101984#msg101984
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 05:13:18 am »
Why not just give it the ability - ":air :air: Dive"

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Re: Fly | Fly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8697.msg102001#msg102001
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2010, 06:23:04 am »
i dunno how useful this is considering that all 5 (not including nymph) air creatures are already airborne. and one of them already has dive. so...idk. it could have some synergy with other elements or be used on sky dragons

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Re: Fly | Fly https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8697.msg102015#msg102015
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2010, 07:27:28 am »
its still op. even with the whole HP/3 thing
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