V2 -- fire tweaked to max speed

[Istari.]

How well does this work without full upgrades?

[jmdt]

How well does this work without full upgrades?

it doesn't work nearly as well.  You need the upgraded phoenix, and cremeation makes a fig difference over immolation.

[Dan43]

you may all know this deck from Turns to win study (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8813.0.html).
i post this deck here, so jmdt can link it properly

this is a deck designed for one purpose only: speed
one goal of this deckdesign was to tweak the quantagain and the numbers of creatures to achieve maximum consistent and an early high dmg output.

no pc, no cc -- just pull out what you can as fast as you can-- and win.
average turns to win on lvl3: 5.40 (200 games)
fastest win possible on 100 hp: 3turns

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thanks to Clathius, he tested the same deck, slightly different tweaked (-1 crimson dragon, +1 minor phoenix) you can find it here with test results: Turns to win study (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8813.0.html)
this deck is based on this preposted decks:
Kartis's Fire/Golem Rush and Construction Guide. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6960.24.html)
kiszol's FASTEST Deck ever (+How to win in 3 turns?) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1060.0.html)
thx for your awsome decks

I've always wondered - what is the purpose of using Ball Lightnings over Ray of Lights? If you are going to cremate them anyway, they won't deal any damage. Ray of Lights last longer than one turn in addition providing you will Light Quanta.

[jmdt]

You don't always have to cremeate them; BL's can help shave a turn off in some situations.

[guolin]

I've always wondered - what is the purpose of using Ball Lightnings over Ray of Lights? If you are going to cremate them anyway, they won't deal any damage. Ray of Lights last longer than one turn in addition providing you will Light Quanta.

Last resort damage. Also, there is almost absolutely no need for the light quanta, ever.

[Retribution]

What exactly would the unupgraded version of this deck look like, (or the fastest unupped fire rush deck)

[~Napalm]

hrhr, nice rush nume.^^

...
if  you win in 5.4 turns, how many golems do you really need to keep up?

you need them all  . you dont need them all to play, but you need them to draw early.
10 damage-only creatures in this deck seems a good amount to reach a nice speed.

if you want to replace something for tweaking:
gavel/1-2 dragon, pillars for pendulums (in my sight not more then 3 pendulums).

Lol, that's not what I meant. I meant how many of them do you really have to keep growthing. Mine rarely hit 11 hp as it is. 

[~Napalm]

What exactly would the unupgraded version of this deck look like, (or the fastest unupped fire rush deck)

From what I've seen, a No Land Stompy version of it. Essentially a fire based rainbow. Mostly fire with novas and very low cost creatures that utilize the other quanta gained form nova/cremation and sometimes a weapon if you have one (arsenic seems to be the most common).

[jmdt]

What exactly would the unupgraded version of this deck look like, (or the fastest unupped fire rush deck)

From what I've seen, a No Land Stompy version of it. Essentially a fire based rainbow. Mostly fire with novas and very low cost creatures that utilize the other quanta gained form nova/cremation and sometimes a weapon if you have one (arsenic seems to be the most common).

Yeah no land stompy is not pure fire, but is as fast as a deck like this will do.

[Retribution]

What exactly would the unupgraded version of this deck look like, (or the fastest unupped fire rush deck)

From what I've seen, a No Land Stompy version of it. Essentially a fire based rainbow. Mostly fire with novas and very low cost creatures that utilize the other quanta gained form nova/cremation and sometimes a weapon if you have one (arsenic seems to be the most common).

Yeah no land stompy is not pure fire, but is as fast as a deck like this will do.

I dislike it's amount of losses >.>

[jmdt]

I dislike it's amount of losses >.>

Me too.

I generally advise people to stay avaw from unupped fire rushes for this fact.

[guolin]

I've upgraded the following:

3 Lava Destroyers
5 Cremations
3 Minor Phoenixes

I've found that Fire Towers should be upgraded before the Phoenixes - otherwise, I can get dead hands sometimes. Either way, this has a much improved win rate over Vreely's Unupped.