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Re: Oracle : Dark Matter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9507.msg410939#msg410939
« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2011, 11:56:48 am »
With the SoG nerf, I got DM today and made a new MA:

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Winrate so far: 2-0
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There's a small chance of not drawing enough SoG's/early Electro, and a small chance of decking out if you're low on quanta or bottomdeck Dragons. There's no room to replace a Tower for another Dragon unless you're hoping for a lot of quanta at the start, but you could simply add another Dragon if you're having trouble with it. I didn't.

Semi-upped version worked on my alt today:

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Re: Oracle : Dark Matter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9507.msg419885#msg419885
« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2011, 04:51:32 pm »
Thanks Higurashi!

The SoG nerf makes this matchup a LOT tighter :)  I have gone 3-0 with your re-vamped deck but 2 of those games were seriously close in both damage and decking out.
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Re: Oracle : Dark Matter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9507.msg419902#msg419902
« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2011, 05:20:59 pm »
Yeah, he's one of those FG's that can make any matchup close just by sheer power. But at least he's no Graviton/Hermes  ::)
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Re: Oracle : Dark Matter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9507.msg446069#msg446069
« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2012, 02:10:28 am »
My fail attempt at a Dark Matter counter:

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It ... sort of works. You risk being rushed and/or decking out. Fun though.

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Re: Oracle : Dark Matter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9507.msg446496#msg446496
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2012, 03:26:06 am »
Inspired by Xeno, I decided to make my own dark matter counter. Here it is~
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Re: Oracle : Dark Matter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9507.msg456542#msg456542
« Reply #65 on: February 04, 2012, 08:16:41 am »
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I believe a variation of this deck would be a good counter to DM. Titans get past Gravity Pull, but that's not all. DM uses Gravity Pull on your Armagios and animated Titans for you. That's right, it blocks out its own damage. SoGs heal damage inflicted by momentumed creatures. You can let a Titan take damage for a while, then lure it away with Armagio.

Plus, it's a mono (by my definition) deck, which means BHs have little effect.
I wonder why this hasn't been discussed further. Most of the decks that rely on 6 dim shields have games where it's impossible to use your first dim shield in time to save you, due to not drawing it or not getting enough quanta. The MA in the OP require you both to get a dim shield out, an electrocutor out, and afford using it, or you quickly die to damage that doesn't care about your shield while BH nibbles at your quanta. I only have to lose with a deck 4 oracle DM predictions in a row (over the course of a couple  months) to realize that while it may be a good deck, it's no counter deck.

Xeno's deck, so far, worked for me today. Anyone else tried it?

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Re: Oracle : Dark Matter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9507.msg456552#msg456552
« Reply #66 on: February 04, 2012, 08:46:19 am »
Doesn't work any more with the change to SoG, now 2 Chargers is more than you can heal.

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Re: Oracle : Dark Matter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9507.msg459568#msg459568
« Reply #67 on: February 13, 2012, 09:49:37 am »
Doesn't work any more with the change to SoG, now 2 Chargers is more than you can heal.
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Re: Oracle : Dark Matter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9507.msg488602#msg488602
« Reply #68 on: April 27, 2012, 10:41:19 pm »
My fail attempt at a Dark Matter counter:

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It ... sort of works. You risk being rushed and/or decking out. Fun though.



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Re: Oracle : Dark Matter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9507.msg495245#msg495245
« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2012, 01:58:45 am »
Beat him with MA today, only I swapped 3 dragons for 3 TU. Is TU a viable strategy? If you get lobo out fast enough, otys aren't a problem, and even if Otys are out, you can copy the stronger creatures like chargers and angels.

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Re: Oracle : Dark Matter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9507.msg500608#msg500608
« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2012, 10:18:39 pm »
Tried PU's in a Sanc duo (with Fractal AA's). He pulled Gravy Farces every time I got PU's, which basically eradicated my offence. I would never recommend them.

This, however, has actually won twice now. The risk here is late Lobo.

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Re: Oracle : Dark Matter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9507.msg501855#msg501855
« Reply #71 on: May 21, 2012, 02:56:04 pm »
Tried PU's in a Sanc duo (with Fractal AA's). He pulled Gravy Farces every time I got PU's, which basically eradicated my offence. I would never recommend them.

This, however, has actually won twice now. The risk here is late Lobo.

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