Overdrive | Hyperdrive

[RavingRabbid]

Well, regardless of whether it's a cost or an effects, Fractal still drains all your HP, because your HP is used as quanta. The effect of Fire Bolt doesn't actually drain your quanta, so that's why it doesn't gain additional damage.

The card says that HP can be used for paying COST and not EFFECT.

If they are used to pay effect, they count for bolts, too.

[Bloodshadow]

The card says that HP can be used for paying COST and not EFFECT.

If they are used to pay effect, they count for bolts, too.

But for effects they're still paid. For Fire Bolt it does not pay any quanta except the casting cost.

[RavingRabbid]

The card says that HP can be used for paying COST and not EFFECT.

If they are used to pay effect, they count for bolts, too.

But for effects they're still paid. For Fire Bolt it does not pay any quanta except the casting cost.

If they are paid, they are quanta. So they count for Fire Bolt.

[Bloodshadow]

HP is a substitute for quanta. It can be used to pay for Advanced Spells, but bolts require actual quanta to work.

Can you please stop now? I don't want this to affect Fire Bolt because I don't want Overdrive to be an instant 100 quanta card for the bolts.

[finkel]

Trolling Trolls Troll.

[Wynden]

Raving, what BloodShadow is saying is that fire bolt uses FIRE quanta to power itself. There is none in this case.
However, the advanced spells drain all the quanta of an element.
Even though in a sense you are right about that, it is, all in all, an ADVANCED spell, and should be treated accordingly. If it makes you feel any better, a note could probably be placed on Overdrive stating this as an aftereffect as well.

[Zeru]

Actually, this card could resurrect time rainbows. Those are good at healing, but lack the speed. This could change it.

[Drawckab]

What did this card say before the change to charge you HP for quanta costs?

[Bloodshadow]

What did this card say before the change to charge you HP for quanta costs?

For 1 turn you can play everything for free. Basically an instant win card combined with Fractal.

[finkel]

With rustler, you could sacrifice 50 health for 100 . That doesn't sound good to me.

[gamer1224]

Maybe this could be reworked as a permenant that works like SoR?...If the quantum to use the skill isnt available you can drain health to pay for it.  Then the "Drains all quatum" argument would exist...on the other hand you could just have fractual drain all your health for people that try to abuse it.

[DRROXO]

fractal uses all quanta so u would die if u use it duh thinkk ppl