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Re: Quantum Generators Challenge [Hosted by the Idea Factory] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26873.msg353341#msg353341
« Reply #60 on: June 18, 2011, 08:30:35 pm »
Lotus | Lotus (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26904)

Lotus has the potential to revolutionize the game even more than Immolation by creating new types of decks in all elements since the potential of Lotus is not limited by generating or costing one element.  When you get a Lotus out on turn 1, the pillars you play generate quanta that turn as though they were towers, and your towers generate twice instead of once.  Multiple Lotuses are even more powerful for initial generation, letting you rush multiple creatures out on early turns and powering free cards for quanta and card advantage.  Consider the normal use of Precognition, which normally reveals your opponent's hand for 1 :time.  With one Lotus it's a free peek, and with two or more it generates bonus :time for free.  This lets you setup a quick Pharaoh at the expense of combo investment, much like Immolation does.  Another example of a viable new deck is chaining low cost creatures like Devourers, Scorpions, Frogs, or Minor Phoenixes and then dropping a Fractal on them or using bonus quanta from Lotus to play a Dragon.

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Refractor | Refractor (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27139)

Refractor's purpose is to allow Rainbow decks to be more heavily invested in certain quanta types.  It can even allow viable quartet and quintet decks based on Quantum Pillars, since it can convert any quanta to necessary elements as long as a creature of that element is on the field.  An example of a newly viable deck is Fallen Druids and Giant Frogs with RoLs, Phase Spiders, and Fractal.  The Refractor can target the Giant Frog for the :life quanta necessary to power the Druid and target the Phase Spiders for the :aether quanta to power Fractal, allowing the deck to run off of Quantum Pillars.  Refractor is also great for powering growth or any other reusable abilities.

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Re: Quantum Generators Challenge [Hosted by the Idea Factory] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26873.msg354343#msg354343
« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2011, 02:44:36 am »
We are waiting on responses for:
Invigor | Invigorate (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26918)
Primal Quantum | Primal Quantum (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26935)
Jewel | Jewel (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27009)

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Re: Quantum Generators Challenge [Hosted by the Idea Factory] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26873.msg354362#msg354362
« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2011, 03:41:54 am »
Invigorate- this card would enable means to counter quanta drains following your past turns' quanta generation, as well as give some activity boosts in other situations, such as after the use of sky blitz- or in order to reach the amount of quanta needed to use sky blitz in the first place.  the burst of quanta is balanced with the need for conventional quanta generators in order for it to function- it will not replace them, but it will augment them to make them more productive when you need them.  currently the only other burst quanta cards I can think of are immolation and nova, both of which had a wide range of uses come out over time, i believe that adding a new wrinkle into the burst quanta niche would take time to explore its true impact.

Primal Quantum- the base card is a bit of a wild card, it will aid in rainbows as well as for decks which have a large range of potentially necessary quanta pools to draw from, such as mutation skills/abilities or twin universe skills.  the upgraded card is more focused, and it would aid in trios and quartos, maybe even a well designed pento deck.  because the pillars would be added to existing stacks, the player would be able to build up their quanta production in their defined pools, without having to allot as many spots in their decks.  the random nature of which stack gets added will act as a balancing aspect of the card and bring down its overall cost to a reasonable level without sacrificing too much conceptually.  this card could potentially limit the number of pillars you need to place in your designed deck, but again, there are some drawbacks to doing so, and deckbuilders better than i would have to come up with how many pillars they should include while keeping this cards mechanics in mind.
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Re: Quantum Generators Challenge [Hosted by the Idea Factory] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26873.msg354850#msg354850
« Reply #63 on: June 22, 2011, 07:20:45 am »
Sorry for being the tardy one.    ._.

Life is getting in the way. xD
Anyways, Jewel (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27009) opens the doors to decks which have not been seen before. Specializing in low-cost creature economy, Jewel takes a sacrifice and produces energy that can power an unstable deck.

And which Nymph loves her blang? Nymph Queen of course!  (...and her tears.) Yes, this little number opens doors to the Nymph territory, no longer specifically needing pillars, so long as you have cheap creatures and a mark to power them with! Turquoise Nymphs can be pumped out with essentially a Mono Water with Sparks and Jewels. Deadly.

Jewel can also take advantage of near useless creatures on one's side of the field as well.

Delayed or frozen army? Feel like they could be better put to use? Essence them and you've got yourself earlier replacements. ^_^
Liquid Shadow about to annihilate your beautiful vampire? Let it leave its memento, Essence it for $4.99/lb with a one time use of Jewel. ^_^

Not to mention it works excellently with the Death theme that :death so lovingly embraces, Jewel works in perfect harmony with Farenheit and the Phoenix. Eep.

Jewel completes the cycle. Energy is used to summon creatures and Jewel absorbs that energy to amplify it and later, emit it. No longer must our hard earned energy go to waste due to hard CC.

Jewel's beauty is in its versatility. It supports decks, makes new ones and creates new situational synergies. Nymph Queen has always been rather tricky to use, she has needed her crown. Let's give it to her!
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Re: Quantum Generators Challenge [Hosted by the Idea Factory] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26873.msg354892#msg354892
« Reply #64 on: June 22, 2011, 11:12:06 am »
Thank you Authors.
Scoring will begin later today when I return. (I am waiting to give chances for editing)
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Re: Quantum Generators Challenge [Hosted by the Idea Factory] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26873.msg360253#msg360253
« Reply #65 on: July 03, 2011, 07:30:32 pm »
Final Results. Thanks for your patience.
Total ScoreNameOriginality/2Balance/3Theme/2Support for new Deck type/3
8.33Quantum Locket | Quantum Locket (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25665)221=1.67333=3.00221=1.67321=2.00
7.00(Element) Amulet | (Element) Talisman (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14304)2111=1.253221=2.002222=2.003211=1.75
6.50Gift of Thetis | Gift of Oceanus (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27336)100=0.33332=2.67221=1.67212.5=1.83
6.33Primal Quantum | Primal Quantum (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26935)222=2.00101.5=0.83211=1.33321.5=2.17
6.25Refractor | Refractor (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27139)2111=1.252222=2.002111=1.252221=2.75
6.00Lotus | Lotus (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26904)2111=1.252111=1.252211=1.503221=1.50
5.83[Element] Pool | [Element] Font (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25253)211=1.33222=2.00211.5=1.50210=1.00
5.41Jewel | Jewel (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27009)2211=1.502211=1.502111=1.25111.5=1.17
5.33Invigor | Invigorate (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26918)211=1.33322=2.33210=1.00110=0.67
4.83Magpie | Magpie (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27216)221.5=1.832110=1.002220=1.502000=0.50
All the cards were good but some have more need from refinement than others.
Magpie was a good idea but did not fit the focus the the challenge very well. (it still was in the top third of card though)
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Re: Quantum Generators Challenge [Hosted by the Idea Factory] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26873.msg360400#msg360400
« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2011, 02:34:48 am »
._. o rly?

Meh, there's always next time.

I thought the Essence idea was pretty interesting.
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