[Official] Pharaoh | Pharaoh

[Higurashi]

The thing about Pharaoh/FFQ usage is that FFQ is very well used in rainbows right now. They have Supernova, and uses for Hourglasses. The ability cost is lowered due to being duo, and the summoning cost is perfect right now (as I see it). Pharaoh is barely used at all. In most cases, it's even better to Fractal Scarabs. I love Pharaoh, as it's a very cool card, and I was hoping I'd get to use this rare a lot. But alas, it only has one usage, and that's overshadowed. That said, I'll happily take a -1 cost as well, of course. n_n

[Smokefree]

-1 cost to cast.

start there, it can always be lowered 7 later

[Malduk]

If Pharaoh costs 7, it would be MUCH better creature than FFQ. Not only because Scarabs eat as many Fireflies as they want, and are next to impossible to clear off the field, but also because Pharaoh uses its own element to generate them.

It does need a buff however. I'd play with his stats tbh. Either make him tougher, so you dont really have to quint him as soon as you play him, or raise his attack, so it kicks off as decent attacker. Raising his attack would also be an indirect buff to Mummy, as Elite Mummy is completely useless creature. If Pharaoh packs a punch, maybe rewinding those could actually become decent strat.

[Higurashi]

No, it wouldn't, due to Fractal. Fractalling Scarabs is better in all cases, and would probably still be after the cost of Pharaoh had been lowered by 2. FFQ would still be used in rainbows due to quanta distribution and higher attack of Elite Fireflies.

Giving Pharaoh more HP won't help one bit. Very seldom is it killed, but rather frozen, delayed, lobotomised, etc. Since it produces decent attackers, it wouldn't make sense to buff its attack, and Elite Mummy is an excellent rush card.

[Malduk]

No, it wouldn't, due to Fractal. Fractalling Scarabs is better in all cases, and would probably still be after the cost of Pharaoh had been lowered by 2. FFQ would still be used in rainbows due to quanta distribution and higher attack of Elite Fireflies.

Giving Pharaoh more HP won't help one bit. Very seldom is it killed, but rather frozen, delayed, lobotomised, etc. Since it produces decent attackers, it wouldn't make sense to buff its attack, and Elite Mummy is an excellent rush card.

Fractaling Scarabs is better than spawning them with Pharaoh if you want to have a board full of Scarabs. Fractaling Fireflies is better than spawning them with FFQ if you want to have a board full of Fireflies.
Because you think that fractaling Scarabs is better strategy in all cases than spawning them from Pharaoh, doesnt mean practically anything in an argument that Pharaoh at 7 cost is simply a better creature than FFQ.

What I am saying that Pharaohs generate much stronger threat than FFQ, and they do it using their own element. It is a pretty simple sentence.

As for what CC is used on Pharaoh, that depends on the deck you're up against. You wont freeze, delay or lobo my Pharaoh if you dont have it in your deck. If you do, you'll do the same to practically any creature I field. 8 HP is right there on the border of "should I bother to waste my CC on this dude", but when that dude is spawning devouring army, I'll sure make sure to take him out in any way possible. Especially if something like SoR is played on him. I'll definitely be more inclined to pack SoRs in Pharaoh deck if he had say 15 HP.

Elite Mummy competes with Flesh Recluse for a place in a deck. Its identical in every way except it has weaker attack, so its selling point should obviously be that it turns to Pharaoh when rewound. However, that Pharaoh has even lower attack than Mummy, and his ability will be useless to you.

[Higurashi]

It does generate a bigger threat when you consider their scaling HP and CC ability, but that does not make it as good as FFQ. Usage does. Where do we use Pharaoh? In a Pharaoh deck. Is that a good deck? No. Can we put a 9 cost creature, or rather several, in any other deck? Not really. Fireflies are -much- more versatile and allows for more decks, and I would use Pharaoh in more decks if it was cheaper. I'm not worried about the balance either due to Fractal and all the CC that stops Pharaohs. And by the heavens, will it be stopped. A Pharaoh deck can't even pack permanent control effectively, and even just a Freeze slows a slow deck down to uselessness. If that's even needed; it's extremely slow already. If need be, the lowering of the cost may come with a lowering of HP. Would make sense.

And yes, Elite Mummy is overshadowed by Flesh Recluse, but if you want to rush, you take both. I agree this could be changed, however, to make the transformation a viable strategy, as well as give Time a better attacker. It just doesn't fit with a creature that's used mainly for its ability.

[Memorystick]

Another thing to point out is that by the time you have a pharaoh out, the opponent could have oty, EE, or fire buckler out- meaning scarabs get killed as they come out unless you wait longer to play more pharaohs. Yes, FFQ has this same problem, but flies last one turn longer (from one generator) against buckler and aren't necessarily the only damage in your deck- the same can't really be said for any pharaoh deck I've tried- even our pharaoh farm (osiris) has this difficulty, and he's a false god

[Demut]

If you reduce the cost to play, increase the cost to spawn.

[Cgnu02]

Yeah, Pharaohs are simply too expensive to play outside of a mono/duo.  I voted -2 cost, that would make them usable.

Agreed

"I voted -2 cost, that would make them usable."

[Demut]

if its usuable in mono and duo just fine then it is just fine. That only leaves rainbow out. And you don't Balance for Rainbow.

[nilsieboy]

it has to be cheaper,if people wanna spam scarabs now they just take fractal

[Demut]

Fine. Fractal is so getting on my nerves now.