Oracle : Graviton

[majofa]

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[icecoldbro]

if this deck is fully uped it should work

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strategy u rage potion his fire-eaters
and explode  his titans
u firelance him and fly ur farenheits
i was able to get him down to 40hp while it wasnt fully uped
hope it helps if so karma me

[geekz_always_win]

needs some decks that work well specifcally against Graviton

best decks
no rares deck
no rares or upped cards deck

Pick an easier False God.

Graviton: No rare, no ups= IMPOSSIBLE.

[majofa]

needs some decks that work well specifcally against Graviton

best decks
no rares deck
no rares or upped cards deck

Pick an easier False God.

Graviton: No rare, no ups= IMPOSSIBLE.

Well, that was a waste of a post...

If rainbow decks have a chance against him, then an unupped rainbow might work... I haven't tested anything against him yet.

Also needed is a deck with upped cards and rares.

[Nume]

I'd think something with lobo, gravity shield, and PA would work great, though I dont know how well you could make it to where you'd get the needed cards early enough, with quanta to play them. None of his creatures can get through gravity shield without momentum though, so that would be the best bet imo.

[kobisjeruk]

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i'm still looking for a cheaper/newbie-friendly version to post here but this will do for those who have the resources

simple guide to use:-
steal their grav shield (if you havent found any yourself) or weapon (if you have)
save antimatters for chargers, lobo everything else (dont put AM on creatures with >5 HP b/c you wont be healed if you have grav.shield in play)
fire spirit can be replaced by anything, most preferably FFQ (growth creature might be block by their shield)

edit 06/10/2010
testing something else but oracle lied to me

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[johannhowitzer]

Graviton: No rare, no ups= IMPOSSIBLE.

I refuse to believe that.  Tossing some ideas around right now, but I have a rehearsal to be at shortly - I'll follow up on this later.

[johannhowitzer]

Testing process:

Game 1 used Maxwell's Demon, Antimatter, Purple Dragon, Lightning, Quintessence, Deflagration, Nova.  Demons turned out to be worthless, Antimatter and Lightning are good enough to handle the Chargers.  Neither Deflagration nor his Titan came out at all.  Gravity Shield will not be a concern, due to Purple Dragons having 5 health, but a dragon of mine died quickly to Gravity Force.  Antimatter DID allow me to survive for quite a long time.

Game 2 abandoned Demon, Deflag, and Nova in favor of Butterfly Effect, Photon, and more Quint.  Completely screwed me over due to Photon being the only playable card on first turn, and no pillars for the next 3.  Scrapping those in favor of Lycanthropes!

Game 3 - Opening got the setup for an immortal butterfly lycan right away, but chose to play antimatter instead.  Had to get the combo out shortly after to counter Titan, but he was still too fast and I had quanta issues.  Going for more pillars.

Game 4 - Streamlined a bit, removing some Quints, Lightnings, a Dragon, and one each Lycan and BE, then added two more pillars.  Now at 33 cards.  This was the best game so far, even with a slow start for me.  He tossed out 3 Firemasters and a Charger early on, and I waited until the last second to antimatter three of them.  I had no quanta issues, but drew creatures very late.  He did win, but I dragged things out to the extreme.  Firemasters are a real problem with their 6 health, takes 2 lightnings to remove them and they can just keep climbing through antimatter.  May just put some demons back in.  Here's the deck as it currently stands, feel free to suggest things:

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With Quints in there, the ONLY purpose Lightning is serving is to remove Firemasters (takes 2), or Chargers if I have no Antimatter.  Considering removing all Lightnings.  The ideal setup should be:

- Quint Demon handles Firemasters when they reach 8|6.
- Quint BE Lycan handles Titans.
- Antimatter handles Chargers, perhaps Firemasters if necessary, providing consistent healing.  Maximum per turn is 28; 14 is more realistic, and should be enough to counter things long enough to lock him down, unless he gets a lot of stuff out fast.
- Dragons pierce Gravity Shield and provide the kill.  Either Quint them or wait until he's locked down and Gravity Force is no longer a threat.

The strat above handles the following usual difficulties Graviton presents:
- Momentum/Explosion/Titan makes shields unreliable (deck uses no shields and has renewable perm control)
- Otyugh/Gravity Force/Fire Storm makes creatures unstable (hence, heavy on the quintage)
- Black Hole kills rainbows too easily (deck is all but mono, I never saw a Black Hole played)

Hm, just had a thought - with my only creatures being Quinted, Pandemonium may be very helpful.

[Baily18]

^Graviton has no Black Holes, so no need to worry about those.

[johannhowitzer]

Game 5 - Traded all Lightning for Demons, removed one dragon and both Lycanthropes.  Going to drop BE too - while it can be used in combo with Antimatter, Titan isn't a very big concern against the usual amount of healing.  VERY close to establishing a stable amount of healing.  Don't do what I did and Antimatter an Armagio just before a Charger comes out!

Game 6 - ZERO quints in the first ten or so turns.  Definitely bumping it up to 6, could not handle the tidal wave of Firemasters.

Game 7 - easy victory, even with average draw.  Only three things are necessary to gain tempo on him: early Demon+Quint, and early Antimatter.

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No EM really possible if he gets Titan out, but it does the job handily.  I don't think my health ever dipped below 50.  You could certainly win with a worse draw, he got stuff out pretty quickly in this game.  I don't recommend losing any Dragons, or you may deckout too often.  Antimatter is definitely more important than Demons, it's your only source of healing and with even one -7 Charger you can last a while.

Recommended order of upgrades: Antimatter, Quintessence, Pillars, then Demons (which are hardly worth it).  DO NOT upgrade the Dragons or they will be stopped by his shield.



Parting thought before I go rock Graviton's world on my real account: Antimatter is one of the most useful cards ever for FGs.  Considering adding a couple to my rainbow!

[chum3]

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Just lost with this deck. Unfortunately, Graviton never played a Charger, which rendered my Antimatters useless  According to the FG deck thread, Graviton only has 6 Chargers in a 70 card deck, which would explain my lack of luck encountering them (he played a lot of Firemasters in my match, which is to be expected).

[twinsbuster]

no rare, no upgrade, EM win