Post by: majofa on July 13, 2010, 07:10:27 pm
Post by: icecoldbro on July 23, 2010, 10:10:41 pm
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and explode his titans
u firelance him and fly ur farenheits
i was able to get him down to 40hp while it wasnt fully uped
hope it helps if so karma me
Post by: geekz_always_win on September 15, 2010, 03:30:18 am
needs some decks that work well specifcally against GravitonPick an easier False God.
best decks
no rares deck
no rares or upped cards deck
Graviton: No rare, no ups= IMPOSSIBLE.
Post by: majofa on September 15, 2010, 04:32:56 am
Well, that was a waste of a post...needs some decks that work well specifcally against GravitonPick an easier False God.
best decks
no rares deck
no rares or upped cards deck
Graviton: No rare, no ups= IMPOSSIBLE.
If rainbow decks have a chance against him, then an unupped rainbow might work... I haven't tested anything against him yet.
Also needed is a deck with upped cards and rares.
Post by: Nume on September 15, 2010, 05:59:18 am
Post by: kobisjeruk on September 19, 2010, 02:23:26 pm
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simple guide to use:-
steal their grav shield (if you havent found any yourself) or weapon (if you have)
save antimatters for chargers, lobo everything else (dont put AM on creatures with >5 HP b/c you wont be healed if you have grav.shield in play)
fire spirit can be replaced by anything, most preferably FFQ (growth creature might be block by their shield)
edit 06/10/2010
testing something else but oracle lied to me
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Post by: johannhowitzer on October 27, 2010, 09:40:56 pm
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Graviton: No rare, no ups= IMPOSSIBLE.I refuse to believe that. Tossing some ideas around right now, but I have a rehearsal to be at shortly - I'll follow up on this later.
Post by: johannhowitzer on October 28, 2010, 03:10:50 am
Game 1 used Maxwell's Demon, Antimatter, Purple Dragon, Lightning, Quintessence, Deflagration, Nova. Demons turned out to be worthless, Antimatter and Lightning are good enough to handle the Chargers. Neither Deflagration nor his Titan came out at all. Gravity Shield will not be a concern, due to Purple Dragons having 5 health, but a dragon of mine died quickly to Gravity Force. Antimatter DID allow me to survive for quite a long time.
Game 2 abandoned Demon, Deflag, and Nova in favor of Butterfly Effect, Photon, and more Quint. Completely screwed me over due to Photon being the only playable card on first turn, and no pillars for the next 3. Scrapping those in favor of Lycanthropes!
Game 3 - Opening got the setup for an immortal butterfly lycan right away, but chose to play antimatter instead. Had to get the combo out shortly after to counter Titan, but he was still too fast and I had quanta issues. Going for more pillars.
Game 4 - Streamlined a bit, removing some Quints, Lightnings, a Dragon, and one each Lycan and BE, then added two more pillars. Now at 33 cards. This was the best game so far, even with a slow start for me. He tossed out 3 Firemasters and a Charger early on, and I waited until the last second to antimatter three of them. I had no quanta issues, but drew creatures very late. He did win, but I dragged things out to the extreme. Firemasters are a real problem with their 6 health, takes 2 lightnings to remove them and they can just keep climbing through antimatter. May just put some demons back in. Here's the deck as it currently stands, feel free to suggest things:
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- Quint Demon handles Firemasters when they reach 8|6.
- Quint BE Lycan handles Titans.
- Antimatter handles Chargers, perhaps Firemasters if necessary, providing consistent healing. Maximum per turn is 28; 14 is more realistic, and should be enough to counter things long enough to lock him down, unless he gets a lot of stuff out fast.
- Dragons pierce Gravity Shield and provide the kill. Either Quint them or wait until he's locked down and Gravity Force is no longer a threat.
The strat above handles the following usual difficulties Graviton presents:
- Momentum/Explosion/Titan makes shields unreliable (deck uses no shields and has renewable perm control)
- Otyugh/Gravity Force/Fire Storm makes creatures unstable (hence, heavy on the quintage)
- Black Hole kills rainbows too easily (deck is all but mono, I never saw a Black Hole played)
Hm, just had a thought - with my only creatures being Quinted, Pandemonium may be very helpful.
Post by: Baily18 on October 28, 2010, 07:31:27 pm
Post by: johannhowitzer on October 29, 2010, 12:40:53 am
Game 6 - ZERO quints in the first ten or so turns. Definitely bumping it up to 6, could not handle the tidal wave of Firemasters.
Game 7 - easy victory, even with average draw. Only three things are necessary to gain tempo on him: early Demon+Quint, and early Antimatter.
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Recommended order of upgrades: Antimatter, Quintessence, Pillars, then Demons (which are hardly worth it). DO NOT upgrade the Dragons or they will be stopped by his shield.
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9301/gravitonwin.jpg)
Parting thought before I go rock Graviton's world on my real account: Antimatter is one of the most useful cards ever for FGs. Considering adding a couple to my rainbow!
Post by: chum3 on November 14, 2010, 07:17:53 am
Just lost with this deck. Unfortunately, Graviton never played a Charger, which rendered my Antimatters useless :( According to the FG deck thread, Graviton only has 6 Chargers in a 70 card deck, which would explain my lack of luck encountering them (he played a lot of Firemasters in my match, which is to be expected).Code: [Select]4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4vd 4vd 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 621 621 621 621 621 621
Post by: twinsbuster on November 14, 2010, 09:24:19 am
no rare, no upgrade, EM win
Post by: smuglapse on November 26, 2010, 06:13:41 pm
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UPDATE 12/9: Another EM, this time with Spectres.
12/19: Another EM
Post by: kobisjeruk on November 27, 2010, 06:40:48 am
edit: but mind flayer is intentional
you'll want to cast mind flayer quickly and 1 supernova even without any towers will help you do that
i would've use fire spectre x2 but i dont have any at the time i came up with the deck (still dont)
Post by: kobisjeruk on December 23, 2010, 08:05:45 am
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Post by: majofa on December 23, 2010, 03:05:40 pm
Post by: chum3 on January 12, 2011, 10:34:08 pm
a minor tweak to ensure you get mind flayer early enough to countUsed this deck today with the Enchant Artifact and Gravity Shields unupped. Worked great! Would have gotten an EM if Graviton didn't momentum an Otyugh the turn before I killed him.Code: [Select]5f3 5f3 5if 5if 5if 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6u7 749 749 77i 7q5 7q5 7t9 7t9 80h 80h 80h
Thanks for the deck.
Post by: Higurashi on February 24, 2011, 03:21:14 pm
No Snovas, so the Aether mark allowed me to quint her on the second turn. From there I Quinted a Flayer, stole his Gravy Shield, drew my third Quint, AM'd 3 Chargers, stole his Titan and Protected it since he was Exploding SoG's before Gravy Shield, drew a Spirit with 9 cards left and EM'd him with 3 cards left. Of course, I never win cards from predicted FG's, but at least it worked this time.
I just love how Aether mark actually helped. xD
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on March 01, 2011, 09:53:02 pm
a minor tweak to ensure you get mind flayer early enough to countTried this deck against him, and it worked great! Only difference was I had 1 Fire Spectre and unupgraded shields. Would have gotten an EM if he hadn't blown up the Titan I stole from him though... Ah well gave me my 3rd Elite Otyugh :PCode: [Select]5f3 5f3 5if 5if 5if 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6u7 749 749 77i 7q5 7q5 7t9 7t9 80h 80h 80h
Post by: LongDono on March 01, 2011, 10:07:36 pm
I strongly disagree with that. Infact I know he can be beaten without rares or upgrades.needs some decks that work well specifcally against GravitonPick an easier False God.
best decks
no rares deck
no rares or upped cards deck
Graviton: No rare, no ups= IMPOSSIBLE.
Post by: johannhowitzer on March 02, 2011, 05:26:20 am
Post by: LongDono on March 02, 2011, 02:27:02 pm
Post by: johannhowitzer on March 02, 2011, 09:39:53 pm
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on March 08, 2011, 08:56:20 pm
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Try this deck and add 3 lobos. Could work due to AI not being smart enough to blow up cloaks
many times people come here and post their 'suggestion' without actually test it themselves
do not be one of them, please (more so when we can now input any FG deck to test our counter)
Post by: bruce 1337 on March 23, 2011, 05:40:02 pm
steal their grav shield (if you havent found any yourself) or weapon (if you have)My main problem with this deck was too low damage. Ye i know i should add some more dmg like forest spectre maybe, but i wanted to test this deck and it doesnt work too good imo tho. Heres my fight:
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Post by: Jaymanfu on March 23, 2011, 06:25:06 pm
Post by: Higurashi on March 25, 2011, 01:27:38 pm
Post by: johannhowitzer on March 31, 2011, 05:51:23 pm
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With Pandemonium, some surprisingly helpful things can happen, though far too infrequently to be reliable. A few times I actually PU'd an Otyugh and stole one Gravity Tower, letting me eat everything in sight... but I still didn't win that one, he got the kill when he brought out Titan.
AM/LS seems to be very stunted by his Otyughs. I have managed to mutate or LS his Oty after AM/LS'ing a well-grown Firemaster... they still don't last long enough. Steal works on Gravity Shield, but Pandemonium was my only way to deal with Momentum. (That was the reason I was lasting so long with it.) Nightmare was pretty cool - he spends his whole deck, and it's possible to stall him with only one Firemaster out, letting it grow very large before AM/LS.
This is showing promise, but it's lacking some tweaking, maybe a few extra pairs of eyes will spot something I'm not.
Post by: willng3 on April 03, 2011, 12:18:24 am
I used the deck in the OP but didn't draw a single Quint until I was well into half of my deck. As a matter of fact, I didn't start drawing any of my healing cards until I had drawn about 10 cards from my deck. So I basically panicked since it looked like he was just going to steamroll me. Played one Fire Spectre early on, Graviton just happened to have a Firestorm in his hand. Played the second one later on when I was halfway into my deck; it got Gravity Force'd. Literally the next turn I drew a Quint. Someone's idea of a cruel joke I'm sure. Another Fire Spirit/Spectre probably wouldn't hurt.
Post by: Avenger on May 02, 2011, 04:29:14 pm
Post by: xBerzerk on May 17, 2011, 07:50:52 am
Game 5 - Traded all Lightning for Demons, removed one dragon and both Lycanthropes. Going to drop BE too - while it can be used in combo with Antimatter, Titan isn't a very big concern against the usual amount of healing. VERY close to establishing a stable amount of healing. Don't do what I did and Antimatter an Armagio just before a Charger comes out!Just used the above deck against Graviton.
Game 6 - ZERO quints in the first ten or so turns. Definitely bumping it up to 6, could not handle the tidal wave of Firemasters.
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No EM really possible if he gets Titan out, but it does the job handily. I don't think my health ever dipped below 50. You could certainly win with a worse draw, he got stuff out pretty quickly in this game. I don't recommend losing any Dragons, or you may deckout too often. Antimatter is definitely more important than Demons, it's your only source of healing and with even one -7 Charger you can last a while.
Recommended order of upgrades: Antimatter, Quintessence, Pillars, then Demons (which are hardly worth it). DO NOT upgrade the Dragons or they will be stopped by his shield.
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9301/gravitonwin.jpg)
Parting thought before I go rock Graviton's world on my real account: Antimatter is one of the most useful cards ever for FGs. Considering adding a couple to my rainbow!
Didn't get a Quintessence until 10th turn or so. Next Quintessence came at 16th. Lost by inches.
Results:
(http://vc22.com/hostbug/lostbyinches.bmp)
Post by: Higurashi on May 17, 2011, 09:33:39 am
Post by: YoungSot on May 27, 2011, 03:53:10 pm
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Post by: Higurashi on May 28, 2011, 11:41:36 am
(http://elementscommunity.org/forum/decks/65c18970e597f98585adfde089598551e9ad482113327.jpg)I've always wanted to get a Quinted Purple against Gravyton just to dominate him thoroughly. I had most of this deck upped, but it did work like a charm. Getting Aether Nymphs to Quint a TU'd Firemaster and do heavy damage on their own is what I love the most about it.
no rare, no upgrade, EM win
Post by: Tea is good on May 29, 2011, 01:25:36 pm
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Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on June 12, 2011, 06:24:19 pm
Post by: Bonestorm on June 15, 2011, 03:14:20 pm
Post by: Dwerg on June 30, 2011, 07:41:26 am
edit: actually I took off one mindflayer, and well that's what made me lose since I decked out due to 1hp left XD
Post by: Xenocidius on July 06, 2011, 09:49:03 am
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So an unupped rainbow could have a chance, maybe a fatter version like this:
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Post by: majofa on July 06, 2011, 08:45:18 pm
Post by: kev on July 07, 2011, 06:46:47 pm
It's a deckout so if that ain't your thing move along. It won't work unupped but has a great EM rate (over a small sample) as shown.
Tips: Momentum'd Fire Eaters (with 7 health) are a problem cuz they'll either take a 20-quanta bolt or two spells to take down. AI generally momentums otys first, but even so you'll want to rage FEs before they get momentum'd when possible early. Deflags are for Titans. Ignore otys and armagios. If you have healing out it may make sense to wait a few turns and double firestorm rather than wasting bolts/rage on individuals.
Post by: Bhlewos on July 16, 2011, 09:26:24 am
(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy150/BhlewosAQW/ElementsTheGame/vsGraviton.png)
Pretty straightforward. One Purple Nymph with SoR and Quint is usually all you need, I just put three in there to increase the chances of getting one. Only play a second if you really need to. Save at least one SoR for the TU'd Firemaster! Once you copy it over, SoR and Quint it so you can grow without :fire quanta.
Couldn't find a way to fit PC in there, unfortunately, so if he gets the Titan out EM is impossible. Maybe a trio with fire could be possible, with a couple of explosions.
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on July 18, 2011, 06:53:34 pm
Buff 1 Scarab and start chewing on his creatures before he can get rushy. Order to eat: Otyugh>Charger>Firemaster>Armagio. The lone Gravity Force is to either use on one of his creatures to bring it to chewing level or to lure away to another scarab in case he gets 1 of his 2 Gravity Forces
Post by: Artea on July 19, 2011, 07:49:34 am
That deck idea is nomtastic :D I made a few changes to it after some time testing it in the trainer. I think this version is a bit more stable:
Buff 1 Scarab and start chewing on his creatures before he can get rushy. Order to eat: Otyugh>Charger>Firemaster>Armagio. The lone Gravity Force is to either use on one of his creatures to bring it to chewing level or to lure away to another scarab in case he gets 1 of his 2 Gravity Forces
Getting familiar with it in the trainer is highly recommended. There are all sorts of weird little combos to pull off depending on your draws, and many times winning will depend on whether or not you can make the right decision.
2 buff scarabs is enough to keep up with his creatures if he didn't get a huge headstart. Be smart about it when you play your 3rd scarab. You don't want to trigger his firestorm if it will take away your field control. Sometimes he will firestorm with less than 3 scarabs out. It seems to be when he gets to around 110 hp (maybe 120 hp trigger like Gemini?).
Your healing sucks, so keeping his damage down is always priority #1. I usually eat chargers and firemasters before otys. Often, you'll have to skip eating otys entirely and save your gravity quanta for the damage dealers. For this reason, it's usually a bad idea to play extra scarabs if you can't buff them.
The thunderbolts are for elite chargers when you're really low on gravity quanta, or when he's spamming creatures and you can't eat them fast enough. In select cases they may be used to bolt creatures down to nomming level if your scarab is small and you're absolutely desperate to raise its hp.
If your superstar scarab gets grav pulled and you need to keep it alive, priortize eating unmomentumed firemasters. Consider doing it in advance if you only have 1 fat scarab on the field. Provided it doesn't come out early game, grav pull isn't as devastating as you might think. It's actually kind of rare for a buff scarab to die to pull when you have the field under control.
Early game titans should be exploded as soon as possible. The damage is just too much for you to keep up. Mid-game you can sometimes explode his shield before his titan if you have his field cleared of damage and have enough hp to tank the titan till victory. If you're in doubt, go for the permanent he doesn't have backup copies of (he only has 2 shields and 2 titans).
If he has no otys on the field early game, play your first scarab unbuffed. This will draw out a gravity pull if he has one and save you from wasting a heavy armor. You need to wait a turn anyways before your scarab can start eating.
The scarabs may be left unupped without lowering your win % too much.
Post by: Bonestorm on August 21, 2011, 07:55:36 am
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24592.msg377887#msg377887 Rawr. Should've known TFO would post this after I brought it up in kong.That deck idea is nomtastic :D
Buff 1 Scarab and start chewing on his creatures before he can get rushy. Order to eat: Otyugh>Charger>Firemaster>Armagio. The lone Gravity Force is to either use on one of his creatures to bring it to chewing level or to lure away to another scarab in case he gets 1 of his 2 Gravity Forces
I like some of the changes you made modifying for Graviton, although 2X Thunderbolt > Shockwave, oty/charger can take a shockwave and 2 :aether is more than acceptable. Good call with towers > pends - you have to eat a lot vs Graviton. The tips you made are handy - deck is very fun to play i'd definitely recommend it :D.
Post by: Artea on August 22, 2011, 04:30:27 pm
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24592.msg377887#msg377887 Rawr. Should've known TFO would post this after I brought it up in kong.Oh, that's where it came from heh, I completely agree with the -shockwave, + thunderbolt. I went back and playtested it some more. Decided to bump the # of explosions up to 4 due to the length of the games and the fact that early game titan spells doom if you can't draw explodes in time. Also swapped a chaos power for heavy armor to boost the draw %. I'm a little unsure of the -druidic staff + arsenic, but it's worked out so far and I do think the extra speed the arsenic gives outweighs the healing from the staff.
I like some of the changes you made modifying for Graviton, although 2X Thunderbolt > Shockwave, oty/charger can take a shockwave and 2 :aether is more than acceptable. Good call with towers > pends - you have to eat a lot vs Graviton. The tips you made are handy - deck is very fun to play i'd definitely recommend it :D.
I've updated my previous post with the changes.
My win/loss ratio with this thing has been around 2:1. Not exactly a perfect counter, but at least you win more than you lose :D
Post by: Angelic_Dawn on August 26, 2011, 05:54:40 pm
I Tried this and a version of my own making against trainer.Code: [Select]4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4vd 4vd 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 621 621 621 621 621 621
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Basic Dem&Dragons. 3win/7Losses (the Anitmattering is a bit lacking, as there are only 2(4for FG's Chargers in his deck, beyond that it works ok =) as you can also AM Firemasters tho ess efficiently)
Dem and Dragons +1Demon -1Quint 4win/6Losses (and feels more consistant you dont have energy for more Quints anyway & Having an early demon is important.)
And decided to experiment a bit on my own to try and make a totaly non-rare unupped Graviton killer.
with some Blessed otyugh's
Presenting: Dawn of the Nom-Nom's.
V1 & V2
In the 10 games try out. v2 won 5/lost 5.
V1 Was a bit screwed by the PermControl in the games it played by having them show up a lot sooner then i had expected. As well as early Gravity pulls, which really should not've happend as often as it did.
As well as a bit low on white to play the Sancts early enough some times.
V1
Blessed momentumed Otyugh = Clear the total field (even including Armagio's in the end)
And is unkillable in turn, except by the single (2x for FG) copy of Gravity pull. And late game that only helps you in stead of harms you as a nice shield.
And kill Condition all in one.
Sanct = There for the Healing/Defence i think mostly Any FG deck needs. And because if he happens to draw Titan, you need healing as you cant eat it :/
So due to the bad score it gained in the 10 trails i played i decided a diffrent version. (won 2 out of 10)
V2: Yes it really Has Holy light xP
and won 5 out of 10. trainer Matches Vs Graviton.
The Holy light is a lot cheaper then Sanct.
Can keep your oty alive trough a Early Game Gravity Pull, and also works as the healing you need to survive the titan.
So i went up against The real thing.
I lost.. =/ so no screeny
But... i post it here anyway. as i think it has a very nice basis to become a unupped/non-rare Deck that works very nice vs Graviton with some Tweaks by some Crafty Forum browsing player.
Well that and im currently to lazy to try more at building it for now.
Maybe later =)
~Angel
Ps:I Have 7 screenies from the 7 times V1+V2 won Vs Trainer Graviton (out of 20) if anyone requires them as examples the concept can truly win on a repeated basis.
Post by: Higurashi on September 23, 2011, 03:45:51 pm
Got an old Fire Stall layin around?God, I hate this bastard.. 3 early Unstoppable Firemasters and 3/4 early Explosions on my healing forced me to double-Firestorm -and- waste Elixir and Lance on the remaining big Firemasters. He never stopped using Unstoppable on Firemasters after that because the only Oty he drew died to double-Firestorm. I don't draw much healing and stay around 5-20 HP as he draws 2 Titans in a row.. luckily I had both my Explosions.
It's a deckout so if that ain't your thing move along. It won't work unupped but has a great EM rate (over a small sample) as shown.
Tips: Momentum'd Fire Eaters (with 7 health) are a problem cuz they'll either take a 20-quanta bolt or two spells to take down. AI generally momentums otys first, but even so you'll want to rage FEs before they get momentum'd when possible early. Deflags are for Titans. Ignore otys and armagios. If you have healing out it may make sense to wait a few turns and double firestorm rather than wasting bolts/rage on individuals.
At this point I'm low on CC left in my deck, but luckily I have a lot of :fire for remaining Lances. Firestorm two more Firemasters, one which is Unstoppable, Elixir it, then Lance the next one once it becomes Unstoppable too. He Explodes my SoG, leaving me with one Sanc against his next Firemaster which I lance. Then comes two more.. and weirdly he plays Unstoppable on Armagio instead of the Oty he has out. I lance another one and finally he starts drawing Otys as I finally start drawing more healing. Unfortunately I keep drawing quanta while he's getting more Firemasters, but finally we see Unstoppable on an Oty. It's hurting badly, but another Lance saves me from the biggest Firemaster and I win by deckout with one turn to spare.
To summarise, if a horrible start like that ends in a win, it's a solid deck.
Second attempt (yeah, I spin this bastard a lot) was an easy EM. I did bring a Miracle and 2 pends, but it wasn't needed. Was close to needing it though, in which case it would've saved my bacon.
Third attempt (sigh) was a loss. Not enough CC drawn.
Post by: Holokausti on September 28, 2011, 07:54:32 am
Beat him with this. Quite a lot of unupped cards (and Sanctuary instead of SoG) but didn't matter too much. I didn't get quints before turn 15 or so, so I decided to play Fire Spectre unquinted. Was surprised when he didn't Firestorm it the very instant I played it, even though he had this one card in hand which he hadn't used. Quinted the spectre and then played another Mind Flayer. Right after that, the Firestorm arrived. Maybe I got lucky or AI doesn't play Firestorm usually, unless there's a set number of creatures on opponent's field.
Post by: Jappert on September 28, 2011, 08:45:12 am
I've seen it use Firestorm on two creatures in some occasions however, maybe if it's hand is full or if he can wipe out some hard hitters, but usually it's 3+.
Otyughs love unquinted Fire Spirits though ;)
Post by: Mataza on September 29, 2011, 12:35:43 pm
snipAnd I won with it. Props to this deck, at least for me it worked. And it felt quite good while doing so. I´d say the only 2 ways you will possibly lose with it is if you get gravity pulled or firestormed early or if he explodes the few pends you have.
V2: Yes it really Has Holy light xP
and won 5 out of 10. trainer Matches Vs Graviton.
The Holy light is a lot cheaper then Sanct.
Can keep your oty alive trough a Early Game Gravity Pull, and also works as the healing you need to survive the titan.
So i went up against The real thing.
I lost.. =/ so no screeny
But Graviton has only 2 of either cc and only 4 total explosions.
For a totally unupped FG deck this is one of the best I have tried yet. I never was even close to losing, unlike with any of the phase shield/fire bolt variants that are recommended for every third FG or so.
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on September 30, 2011, 02:16:13 pm
I used a slight variant of this deck, and came extremely close:snipAnd I won with it. Props to this deck, at least for me it worked. And it felt quite good while doing so. I´d say the only 2 ways you will possibly lose with it is if you get gravity pulled or firestormed early or if he explodes the few pends you have.
V2: Yes it really Has Holy light xP
and won 5 out of 10. trainer Matches Vs Graviton.
The Holy light is a lot cheaper then Sanct.
Can keep your oty alive trough a Early Game Gravity Pull, and also works as the healing you need to survive the titan.
So i went up against The real thing.
I lost.. =/ so no screeny
But Graviton has only 2 of either cc and only 4 total explosions.
For a totally unupped FG deck this is one of the best I have tried yet. I never was even close to losing, unlike with any of the phase shield/fire bolt variants that are recommended for every third FG or so.
The main problem for me maintaining enough HP - I often topdecked a Holy Light just in order to keep me going, but I ended up burning through all 6 Holy Lights in my deck (5 to heal me, 1 to keep my GP'd Otyugh going).
Just tossing some ideas out there, but if you dislike Sancs, try using SoDs or SoGs instead (if you have them) - I had a lot of excess quantum and two Otyughs eating everything except for his Titan and Grav Shield, so better healing can be used.
Post by: Angelic_Dawn on September 30, 2011, 09:21:17 pm
*Insert Picture of Angelic's Nom nom deck*Yeah I considered SoG's SoD & such, They are better for the concept, but i wanted to build it as a non rare non upgraded. So that the people that need the Oracle Spin Counter most, have another option.
I used a slight variant of this deck, and came extremely close:
The main problem for me maintaining enough HP - I often topdecked a Holy Light just in order to keep me going, but I ended up burning through all 6 Holy Lights in my deck (5 to heal me, 1 to keep my GP'd Otyugh going).
Just tossing some ideas out there, but if you dislike Sancs, try using SoDs or SoGs instead (if you have them) - I had a lot of excess quantum and two Otyughs eating everything except for his Titan and Grav Shield, so better healing can be used.
:)
Post by: Higurashi on September 30, 2011, 09:39:15 pm
If you want to make a different version of the Holy Light variant and have rares, I'd consider more pends/pillars and some Miracles.
Post by: Mataza on October 09, 2011, 08:10:07 am
I played the sanct version actually, not the holy light one. (kinda obvious from my screenshot which contains a sanct)
V1So anyway.
I now tried out the actual Holy light version and Graviton pulled his Titan pretty early, against which Holy light cant do shit while Sancts might outheal it. Dunno, maybe a balance between sancts and holy lights is overall better? I´m hitting the trainer for now.
Edit:
So far the sanct version went 5/5 for me.
The Holy Light version only went 3 wins/7losses.
In my opinion Otyughs lend themselves to a controlling play style(or stalling if you so want). This fits a lot better with Sanctuaries than with Holy lights, simply because Sancts are perms. Playing with Holy light felt more like a rush deck with 140-160 hp.
And keep in mind, Holy lights can´t always rescue your Oty. Especially before you cleared the field, when it matters the most.
Ironically, the Sanctuaries saved me exactly 2 times where Holy lights would never have saved me.
1. Graviton got an early Titan out and I barely managed to outheal it at around 20 hp. Two rounds (14 HP) later I had the field clear of monster. Some 7 turns later I won.
2. I had only 3-4 Pillars but 5 sancts on hand. After the first explosion against a pillar I played sancts to take the explosions for my pillars. And he did draw 2 more explosions.
Overall I feel that Holy light doesn´t pack enough of a punch for 1 card. 10 HP for 1 :light is pretty good. But 10 HP for 1 card isn´t.
Post by: BugSlayer on October 26, 2011, 04:12:45 am
V1Very good deck
If you have any Improved Miracles, use V1 and remove two sancts for each miracle you have. Replace each pair of sancts with 1 miracle and 1 holy light. One turn before the kill, play the miracle if you have it (damage is slow, so chances are good that you will), then on the turn you kill, use holy light for the EM.
Post by: Polari on October 30, 2011, 04:27:39 pm
Post by: majofa on November 16, 2011, 01:25:26 am
Post by: chum3 on November 22, 2011, 07:11:54 am
Used today. Worked like a charm.
Post by: Riversilk on December 29, 2011, 07:25:41 pm
Just played with this deck 2 times: one in the trainer, one on the field:
On the trainer i got the Elite Otyugh in starting hand, along with 2 blessings... lucky hand, FG was so easy!
When i played for real though, neither the Elite Otyugh nor the Morning Glory popped out, so i used simple Otyughs (one, max 2 at a time, i noticed if i keep less than 3 creatures on the field he doesn't use Fire Storm).
At first it was fine, but then he played a Gravity Force on my lonely Oty (blessed 2 times, he had like 15 hps), so i was forced (duh) to switch to another one (+blessing and momentum to be able to start devouring his 7 hps creatures) and leave back the pulled one to his destiny :(
In the end i didn't even need the Miracle, but i think if you get a worse starting hand then it may be needed (and you don't have much more use of light quanta at that point in the game)
So far, wonderful deck, thanks to Angelic_Dawn for the idea.
I propose his deck to be posted on first post!
Post by: Angelic_Dawn on December 30, 2011, 05:17:34 pm
So far, wonderful deck, thanks to Angelic_Dawn for the idea.aww :D, Thanks, It's always nice to get some credit and be appreciated for the effort & idea's.
I propose her deck to be posted on first post!
Yay. :)
Ps:
already mentioned it might need a little tweaking and could probaly've used a shard/miracle, and obviously anything can use ups, but i wanted it rare/upped free. (free to include for those who do own any)
small Energybase Tweak/Swap, ups,and miracles later... Apparently that makes for an entirely new concept, instead of still mine =(, oh well, i dont mind to much, thats the way of the forum/internet i suppose. :p
Still Yay, For your appreciation, already Makes my entire day, Thanks =D
Post by: Bhlewos on January 14, 2012, 07:14:55 am
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on February 01, 2012, 09:47:24 pm
Post by: furballdn on February 19, 2012, 08:44:36 pm
Post by: Sevs on March 08, 2012, 09:03:37 am
???=SoSac
Post by: Moraku on March 16, 2012, 12:56:32 pm
I know you want no ups no rares but this works extremely wellIndeed worked well. Wasn't even close.
???=SoSac
The only thing to beware of is the random explosion when you don't expect it.
Post by: Boingo on April 19, 2012, 01:18:31 am
I know you want no ups no rares but this works extremely wellExcellent deck--didn't even use a sundial and earned EM+. SoSac really turns the tables on the otherwise very difficult FG--no permanents to explode and uses his rapidly building attack to heal.
Frugal FG gave no cards, :'(
Post by: Junkers on April 20, 2012, 05:08:23 pm
I threw this together not expecting much and completely pummeled Graviton (sorry no screen shots). Either it's a really easy FG, or I got lucky because there were quite a few cards in there that did absolutely nothing to help my cause.
First off, I just meant to outlast him - and I forgot the photon to go along with eternity... doh!!!! Add a photon if you use this deck.
Spine Carapace was completely useless, might replace it with a heal.
Pandemonium - having just 1 in there is pretty lame. Anti-matter might be a better bet, in which case I'd drop the chaos seeds as well, although they did help.
Could use 1 more plague and 1 more enchant artifact.
SoS was a complete waste of time - throw those out.
1 more rage elixir would probably help.
I don't know, the deck did very very well, but I can see it's still a work in progress. Any suggestions?
Post by: Higurashi on April 20, 2012, 05:45:41 pm
Post by: Junkers on April 28, 2012, 11:39:13 am
You certainly got lucky as he's one of the strongest, but a CC-bow with healing could probably beat him considering I used to Firestall him before the SoG change.
No kidding... just had a rematch with a tightened up version of this deck. I didn't have a chance.
Post by: Selinea on May 10, 2012, 03:44:19 pm
This worked for me! With no upped cards, I had to use the Miracle in round 7 or so. (One oty couldn't keep munching critters fast enough.)
Just played with this deck 2 times: one in the trainer, one on the field:
On the trainer i got the Elite Otyugh in starting hand, along with 2 blessings... lucky hand, FG was so easy!
When i played for real though, neither the Elite Otyugh nor the Morning Glory popped out, so i used simple Otyughs (one, max 2 at a time, i noticed if i keep less than 3 creatures on the field he doesn't use Fire Storm).
At first it was fine, but then he played a Gravity Force on my lonely Oty (blessed 2 times, he had like 15 hps), so i was forced (duh) to switch to another one (+blessing and momentum to be able to start devouring his 7 hps creatures) and leave back the pulled one to his destiny :(
In the end i didn't even need the Miracle, but i think if you get a worse starting hand then it may be needed (and you don't have much more use of light quanta at that point in the game)
So far, wonderful deck, thanks to Angelic_Dawn for the idea.
I propose his deck to be posted on first post!
If you don't draw otys/blessings or a miracle early, you'd probably still lose, and with two rares, it's still not completely newbie friendly, but it's a lot more feasible than the fully upped decks currently listed in the first post.
I spun an elite oty, so now I have one to use against Graviton in the future. ;D
Post by: eaglgenes101 on June 17, 2012, 04:48:16 am
Post by: Calindu on June 17, 2012, 04:58:51 am
Now for graviton. Can someone give some FG farmer decks that are effective against graviton for inspiration?
SPlat.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on June 17, 2012, 05:17:55 am
Dune scorp deck?Now for graviton. Can someone give some FG farmer decks that are effective against graviton for inspiration?
SPlat.
Post by: furballdn on June 17, 2012, 05:19:30 am
Neurotoxin for damage, SoSac for stalling. Just using dim shields or sundials doesn't seem to work since graviton packs lots of PC.Dune scorp deck?Now for graviton. Can someone give some FG farmer decks that are effective against graviton for inspiration?
SPlat.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on June 17, 2012, 05:28:49 am
4 explosions, to be exact. A perm-heavy deck can handle that.Neurotoxin for damage, SoSac for stalling. Just using dim shields or sundials doesn't seem to work since graviton packs lots of PC.Dune scorp deck?Now for graviton. Can someone give some FG farmer decks that are effective against graviton for inspiration?
SPlat.
Post by: Calindu on June 17, 2012, 05:40:25 am
4 explosions, to be exact. A perm-heavy deck can handle that.Neurotoxin for damage, SoSac for stalling. Just using dim shields or sundials doesn't seem to work since graviton packs lots of PC.Dune scorp deck?Now for graviton. Can someone give some FG farmer decks that are effective against graviton for inspiration?
SPlat.
Yeah...A perm-heavy deck can stand 4 Explosions, 6 Momentums, 4 Chargers and 2 Titans.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on June 17, 2012, 05:42:54 am
Sundials to lead away splosions. Mind flayer + quint + wings = complete lockdown for graviton.
Post by: Calindu on June 17, 2012, 05:46:54 am
Post by: furballdn on June 17, 2012, 05:47:41 am
First draft:50 card deck. Quite fat. Already a bit skeptical.
Sundials to lead away splosions. Mind flayer + quint + wings = complete lockdown for graviton.
Unupped, unupped HGs are bad, also not sure about 20 QPs.
Only 2 dune scorps? Not sure if you'll get them in time since you need neurotoxin early.
3 quints probably won't be enough. You also still have no way to block titan.
Did you test it out in trainer? I don't think it'll work.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on June 17, 2012, 05:49:45 am
Basic structure was copied from Morte's counter.First draft:50 card deck. Quite fat. Already a bit skeptical.
Sundials to lead away splosions. Mind flayer + quint + wings = complete lockdown for graviton.
Unupped, unupped HGs are bad, also not sure about 20 QPs.
Only 2 dune scorps? Not sure if you'll get them in time since you need neurotoxin early.
3 quints probably won't be enough. You also still have no way to block titan.
Did you test it out in trainer? I don't think it'll work.
*Sudden realization*
What about using the UG strategy from it, too?
Post by: furballdn on June 17, 2012, 05:51:49 am
Post by: eaglgenes101 on June 17, 2012, 05:52:33 am
Post by: eaglgenes101 on June 17, 2012, 08:47:56 pm
[sarcasm]Yes, Graviton really isn't possible.[/sarcasm]
Post by: SpartanWKA on July 01, 2012, 04:28:28 pm
Post by: ddevans96 on July 07, 2012, 07:20:32 am
Post by: eaglgenes101 on August 21, 2012, 06:12:59 pm
Post by: majofa on October 13, 2012, 04:43:46 pm
Updated Rainbow:
Post by: ddevans96 on October 26, 2012, 10:13:47 pm
Post by: whatifidogetcaught? on November 19, 2012, 02:55:41 pm
This unupped version of the OP can lock him down and get EM's occasionally.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on November 19, 2012, 09:57:59 pm
Is it reliable enough for a newb who builds this to get a net expected profit from using this once?
This unupped version of the OP can lock him down and get EM's occasionally.
Post by: whatifidogetcaught? on November 19, 2012, 11:42:32 pm
Is it reliable enough for a newb who builds this to get a net expected profit from using this once?
This unupped version of the OP can lock him down and get EM's occasionally.
All it takes is one or two upped cards and they are set, also EM's do happen with this deck.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on November 20, 2012, 04:09:16 am
*Goes off to do testing*Is it reliable enough for a newb who builds this to get a net expected profit from using this once?
This unupped version of the OP can lock him down and get EM's occasionally.
All it takes is one or two upped cards and they are set, also EM's do happen with this deck.
Post by: Finale on November 22, 2012, 12:45:49 pm
*Goes off to do testing*Is it reliable enough for a newb who builds this to get a net expected profit from using this once?
This unupped version of the OP can lock him down and get EM's occasionally.
All it takes is one or two upped cards and they are set, also EM's do happen with this deck.
EM with this deck upped a little, I didn't really need hourglasses
Post by: Calimar on January 23, 2013, 08:11:17 am
This unupped version of the OP can lock him down and get EM's occasionally.
Yes, it worked for me... making my breath really heavy until last card, but it worked :D
(http://uptiki.altervista.org/_altervista_ht/mflpmkn36v13ewt2lxr7.jpg)
Post by: ddevans96 on February 12, 2013, 10:16:34 pm
Post by: OtherPlayers on February 13, 2013, 09:22:53 am
I've tried this deck a few times and lost every times. I just can't ever seem to draw the cards that I need to survive. Either I don't draw mind flayers or sancts and the momentum creatures kill me, or I can't get out enough damage to kill him fast enough, or I never draw the quints and can't send anything out or he'll kill it immediately. Alternatively I get several of my starting towers exploded, and can never get the quanta I need to play any cards.Is it reliable enough for a newb who builds this to get a net expected profit from using this once?
This unupped version of the OP can lock him down and get EM's occasionally.
All it takes is one or two upped cards and they are set, also EM's do happen with this deck.
Post by: Jonny on May 07, 2013, 09:41:35 am
Is it reliable enough for a newb who builds this to get a net expected profit from using this once?
This unupped version of the OP can lock him down and get EM's occasionally.
This deck is not reliable at all. I have played 10+ games with this, even upgrading some cards*. I couldn't win a single match.
*) 1 Electrum hourglass and 1 Quantum pillar.
Post by: Cielo on May 08, 2013, 07:37:14 pm
The one with SoSa worked well!
Post by: jsrjohnny on May 11, 2013, 04:57:53 am
Post by: ColorlessGreen on May 31, 2013, 01:27:02 am
(First deck currently in the OP)
Why does this deck not have a luciferin or some other way to gain the last hp after a late-game miracle?
Post by: Higurashi on May 31, 2013, 07:56:57 am
Post by: trashduke on June 13, 2013, 03:23:34 am
Poison Dials also works perfectly well.
Yes it does - I've gone 2-0 with Pdials this week. Reid4891 put the percentage at 95% (21-1) back in version 1.31. I'd imagine it is still similar to that.
Post by: D.R Hero on June 26, 2013, 06:43:05 pm
Requires a good draw so your hand doesn't fill up without the needed novas. Used the chaos power buffed wardens to kill/delay everything that had momentum while the voodoo dolls tanked everything else.
Post by: Dapperthylacine on July 13, 2013, 04:08:07 am
Post by: Jonny on July 29, 2013, 11:11:09 am
Post by: Frelance on August 17, 2013, 08:31:02 pm
Post by: dawn to dusk on October 24, 2013, 09:27:15 pm
i just won with a modded and unupped variant of the recommended deck. quite an easy victory, get 1 oty out and lay all buffs on it. watch quanta and dont play mom's if <3 :gravity quanta. extra oty's arent necessary to play as they will get destroyed. when i used it, i had a 22|22 oty by the end and was killing anything that came.
thx for the unstoppable!
Post by: CuCN on November 02, 2013, 07:08:47 am
SoB is at least as good as Precog!
Post by: arktos22 on November 07, 2013, 07:50:35 am
i just won with a modded and unupped variant of the recommended deck. quite an easy victory, get 1 oty out and lay all buffs on it. watch quanta and dont play mom's if <3 :gravity quanta. extra oty's arent necessary to play as they will get destroyed. when i used it, i had a 22|22 oty by the end and was killing anything that came.
thx for the unstoppable!
Easy win for me too. Hard to EM, but whatever - I'm in it for the upgraded cards not the electrum.
Post by: the dictator on January 08, 2014, 03:20:20 pm
(http://puu.sh/6dQ0Y.jpg)
Easy
Post by: SevenOfAKind on August 21, 2015, 10:04:40 am
This unupped version of the OP can lock him down and get EM's occasionally.
Incredibly easy lock down for me, would have won if not for having both fire spirits in last 5 cards. Guess thats just my luck to have drawn all my cards with him on 18 life.
Post by: ddevans96 on June 04, 2019, 01:32:36 am
(https://i.imgur.com/meDDfCp.png?1)
I'll attempt to build a legitimate, reliable deck in the future, but this was a nice proof of concept.
