Converge | Coalesce

[wizelsnarf]

NAME: Converge ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ABILITY: Target creature's ability is changed to Combine	NAME: Coalesce ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 1 TYPE: Spell ABILITY: Target creature's ability is changed to Combine

ART: Wizelsnarf IDEA: Wizelsnarf NOTES: Combine: Target creature absorbs this creature and gains its current attack and hp. This creature is removed from the board. [NEW] Cannot target enemy creatures. (This creature is NOT counted as killed)

Added an opposing card, Disperse | Dismantle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7780.0.html

The pair are for the opposite competition http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7668.0.html

[b00mc1ap]

Me likes it. Does it also gain the skill and any buffs? For example if you put Coalesce on a Photon and combine it with a flying, adrenalined, momentum druidic staff, would the new Photon have 2|7 stats along with adrenaline, momentum, and the heal?

If so, I would rate this is overpowered. Well either way it is. While a low stat creature like a fallen druid can basically get rid of any creature, no matter what the stats, this card actually acquires the stats, making it overpowered.

[wizelsnarf]

While a low stat creature like a fallen druid can basically get rid of any creature, no matter what the stats, this card actually acquires the stats, making it overpowered.

Not really sure what you are saying here, can you rephrase?

Okay I guess I need an example.

I have a 1|6 Otyugh with momentum and a Pest whose current stats are 2|5 on the field. I cast Coalesce on the Pest, and the Pest loses its burrow ability. That is replaced with the Combine ability. I wait a turn and the pest still transfers 1 quantum as this is passive. I then click the pest and target my Otyugh. The result is a 3|11 Otyugh that still has momentum. It doesn't gain any skill from the pest. Just the current attack and hp stats.

Example 2:

5|8 Anubis and and 3|1 Scarab with Adrenaline and momentum. I cast Coalesce on the scarab. The scarab loses it's devour ability and gains combine. I then click the scarab and target the Anubis. The Anubis is now 8|9 WITHOUT momentum or adrenaline.


Did all that makes sense?

[Purity_Riot]

Thank you for participating

[b00mc1ap]

Yes I understand what you are trying to say. So you mean you can only comine your own creatures? I thought you meant that you can combine any creature and your creature chosen creature, giving you both attacks, and destroying the other creature. If this was the other player's creature, it'd be kind of op.

[wizelsnarf]

Yeah you are right I just assumed.

Combine is not a skill that can be used on enemy creatures.

Converge and Coalesce could be used on enemy creatures to replace their abilities with combine though.

I could case Coalesce on an enemy Fallen Druid and change its ability from Improve to Combine. But the druid would only be able to combine with other enemy creatures, not mine.

[WakSkylicker]

Oty combine wif fliying Titan =

[b00mc1ap]

Oty combine wif fliying Titan =

Wouldn't work since the Otyugh would lose it's devour ability.

[wizelsnarf]

Oty combine wif fliying Titan =

Wouldn't work since the Otyugh would lose it's devour ability.

Actually it would. You would either cast it on Titan, which then targets Oty and lose momentum (but keep devour) or cast it on oty and target Titan (keep momentum but lose devour)

I think this would be really halirious, but that doesn't make it OP because this would require 4 cards to make happen. Titan, Animate Weapon, Oty and Coalesce...


Do you think this spell should get rid of all abilities? Currently it just turns one creature into a buff basically but doesn't affect the other.

[b00mc1ap]

Oty combine wif fliying Titan =

Wouldn't work since the Otyugh would lose it's devour ability.

Actually it would. You would either cast it on Titan, which then targets Oty and lose momentum (but keep devour) or cast it on oty and target Titan (keep momentum but lose devour)

I think this would be really halirious, but that doesn't make it OP because this would require 4 cards to make happen. Titan, Animate Weapon, Oty and Coalesce...


Do you think this spell should get rid of all abilities? Currently it just turns one creature into a buff basically but doesn't affect the other.

Then I do not vote in this card's favor. If this is possible you can get 70 hp Otyugh's using close to no cards. Bad idea. Way op

[Ruduen]

Then I do not vote in this card's favor. If this is possible you can get 70 hp Otyugh's using close to no cards. Bad idea. Way op

Close to no cards.

Titan + Flying Weapon + Oty + This.

Four cards is not "Close to none." As it stands, by this logic, you can already get an insane one using it + Basilisk Blood.

That being said, this + chain dive = Yikes. I can see it doing quite a few ridiculous things in those decks. Still, hard to say how it is for certain.

[wizelsnarf]

You are talking 12-13 quanta for this "titan oty"

I would be more concerned with combining a ruby dragon with a titan....

In any case, except for a few select abilities like momentum, devour, maybe dive this really wouldnt be any different than turning 2 creatures into one. But that said Unstoppable is only 1 to cast on a creature anyways.

What do people think. Should abilities be lost when you buff one creature with another creature('s stats)?