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Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg397757#msg397757
« on: September 23, 2011, 08:46:43 am »


Appears like:

SoP is now a permanent, and acts at the end of the turn. It doesn't stack.



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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg397761#msg397761
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011, 08:54:17 am »
Hmm, I notice it uses the old image for Shard of Divinity.

It's an interesting attempt to make Flooding more useful, but it still seems underpowered.
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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg397765#msg397765
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 09:06:15 am »
It's an interesting attempt to make Flooding more useful, but it still seems underpowered.
I agree the whole wait a turn thing seems very underpowered especially when compared to eclipse. Also the fact that 7 creatures need to be down to get the +3/+3 bonus. By that time, the bonus probably isnt going to be to helpful since you probably dont have many more creatures and you probably are about to win anyway.
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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg397774#msg397774
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011, 09:30:14 am »
Utterly useless. The only true application is vs Shard of Sacrifice, which means it's either mandatory or useless. The last thing Water (and possibly the game as a whole) needs is something like this. :/
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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg397777#msg397777
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2011, 09:33:10 am »
Probably the most use that you can get out of it. Blank cards are SoP.

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Spam Physalias, Flood the field, keep spamming Physalias. Stack SoP for burst damage (pretty sure that with the current wording, you can play as many SoP as you want in a turn, and your creatures will only skip 1 turn of attacks).
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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg397789#msg397789
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 09:59:23 am »
Probably the most use that you can get out of it. Blank cards are SoP.
Spam Physalias, Flood the field, keep spamming Physalias. Stack SoP for burst damage (pretty sure that with the current wording, you can play as many SoP as you want in a turn, and your creatures will only skip 1 turn of attacks).
Uhm... no meaningful defense, terribly vulnerable to mass CC and no PC. Also it's slower than Fractix... But hey! It's a deck with Flooding! :O I never did see one that could be called competitive viable. If this can, that is. I'm a bit on the pessimistic side, am I not? :/
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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg397791#msg397791
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2011, 10:05:20 am »
This has synergy with one card: flooding. And it is still underpowered even with flooding.

It could possibly have more interesting synergies (and help low attack creatures punch past shields a tiny bit) if it worked something like this:

"Your creatures do not attack this turn.
:water creatures gain +1|+1 during any turn in which they do not attack"

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg397798#msg397798
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2011, 10:17:49 am »
How about this:
Target player's creatures do not attack for 1 turn. If you used it on yourself, then you get the attack and hp bonuses.
So it would be useful even if your opponent doesn't use SoS or fire shield.

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg397799#msg397799
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2011, 10:18:59 am »
I think it's too weak.  The 'can't attack for one turn' means that you lose a turn of attacks in exchange for +1/+1 to your water creatures.  It does synergize with flooding in theory, but in practice it is fairly rare for there to ever be more than 1 row of creatures in play, unless there is a dedicated deck for it.  (boneyard, firefly queen, pharaoh, etc)

I do realize that the 'can't attack for 1 turn' was probably built to make it useful against Shard of Sacrifice, but nobody is going to use this card for that when there are upped sundials; unless they play water, upped sundial does the job better.

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg397808#msg397808
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2011, 10:45:30 am »
heh?   feel like i read somewhere that new shard can use with all element  but greater good with some element...     maybe it's my bad  but i can see only this card can't do that concept...

btw...  +3/+3 part mean 'all creature in flood' or only 'water creature in flood'?

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg397809#msg397809
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2011, 10:53:31 am »
btw...  +3/+3 part mean 'all creature in flood' or only 'water creature in flood'?
non-creature in flood will die, but they do attack before dying. Also, buffed Cells :o

But I am pretty sure it only affects :water creatures
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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg397812#msg397812
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2011, 11:09:11 am »
cell is enough for this card.   with water mark and death pillar.   

or maybe you can even mass creature > flood > shard > destroy flood (but i still think it's a bit hard to do)   

but all i talk will completely fail if this card can't buff other creature in flood.

 

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