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Tea's patent pending Fractalbow! v2.2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg139221#msg139221
« on: August 15, 2010, 05:01:10 pm »
Ok It might seem complicated, and not very fast (thats why I use it on halfbloods and for pvp), but it has a great ability to use whatever you have on hand to make a bunch of damage fast. You also have options for many situations. I've started testing on t50 and it seems to be working fine, for rainbow decks it has phoenix and frog, for Rol/hope it has physalias and for other situations that sap my other quanta, it has many different options.

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Ok, I stripped down everything that didn't do damage or break down shields. This is quite a bit faster. Add a leaf dragon for faster frogtals.

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^^^^^^ Thats the Rol/Hope version in its roughest form. Just working out the details now. I decided to take out the frogs because coordinating everything was getting confusing. Once I work this out I'll see if I can get the Leafdragon combo going again. In the beginning when stuff worked it made like 180 life quanta per game + whatever i used in a fractal or two.

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Usually you get a fewer towers and supernovas at the start and start playing creatures. you will notice that all these creatures can be played very easily and it is much like a regular speed rainbow. There is one large difference;
While regular speed rainbows utilize growth creatures to stack damage quickly and get out of hand easiler, this deck piles on the quanta and fractals small creatures with good damage ratios. Like any speed rainbow this can be easy tinkered with until you find your favorite stuff to fractal. Plus, most decks with some cc don't pack enough to take down a phoenixtal or pestal

I picked:
1. Giant Frogs (5 damage, 2 life quanta, great for fractal and can get over some shields.)

2. Phoneixs (4 damage, 2 fire quanta, virtually unkillable, for those times when the opponent has lots of creature control.

3. Physalias (2 damage, 1 water quanta, can poison, yeah, you can sometimes find a person with a RoL/Hope deck, these help me lots)

4. Bloodsuckers (3 damage, 2 darkness quanta, gets crazy strength from nightfall/eclipse)

5. Elite Antlion (4 damage 2 quanta, better hp than phoenix, won't get delayed a turn every time a thunder storm comes around) Replaces graboids, because they are fractalable.

6. Devourers: 0 damage, 2 quanta, they slow opponent down. If the opponent is using a speed mono deck, fractal these and after a good hand you can shut their deck completely down. They usually don't make more than 8 quanta per turn, especially if they are a life deck.

So yeah, still polishing this thing, anyone can test and give feed back.

One tip, I tried to throw in luciferin and hope for mini-Rol/hope set up using giant frogs, see what you can do with that, or see if it is better suited to fractal Rols with hope. Imagine the defence of Rol/hope with the damage of frogtal and the survivability of fractal/phoneix, yeah, if you can get that worked out, we have a new god farmer.
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Re: Fractal Speed Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg139227#msg139227
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2010, 05:17:36 pm »
This looks fun, I'll have to give it a try.

Question, would 2-3 Aether Towers make this deck run faster?

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Re: Fractal Speed Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg139228#msg139228
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2010, 05:19:52 pm »
I have a feeling that if you built up aether too fast, you would find yourself with enough for fractal, but not enough quanta for creatures.

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Re: Fractal Speed Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg139242#msg139242
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2010, 06:15:28 pm »
There seems to be only three "real" Fractal choices: Giant Frog for damage, Minor Phoenixes to deal with creature control, and Physalias to deal with shields. I think you could try dropping the Black Hole, one Graboid, the Deja Vu, and the Bloodsucker, and throwing in another Physalia. The only reason I'd Fractal the Bloodsucker is if your opponent has an Eclipse, and even then the Frog is just as good.

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Re: Fractal Speed Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg139248#msg139248
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2010, 06:29:40 pm »
There seems to be only three "real" Fractal choices: Giant Frog for damage, Minor Phoenixes to deal with creature control, and Physalias to deal with shields. I think you could try dropping the Black Hole, one Graboid, the Deja Vu, and the Bloodsucker, and throwing in another Physalia. The only reason I'd Fractal the Bloodsucker is if your opponent has an Eclipse, and even then the Frog is just as good.
Bloodsuckers are a CC on a stick card.  Several bloodsuckers can help clear out the opponents field in a hurry.  They are a very underrated card in general.

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Re: Fractal Speed Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg139260#msg139260
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2010, 06:48:43 pm »
Bloodsuckers are a CC on a stick card.  Several bloodsuckers can help clear out the opponents field in a hurry.  They are a very underrated card in general.
Bloodsuckers are my favorite :darkness card to use by far. I try to stick them in as many of my FG farmers as i can.

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Re: Fractal Speed Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg139599#msg139599
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2010, 04:21:27 am »
I'm now testing the deck without graboids and adding in elite antlions which have the same amount of attack as phoneixes for the same price, I also wanted more options for the deck. One reason I'm not taking out the black hole is because I want an em worthy deck, but also because elite graviton guard isn't worth fractaling. Let that be known. I'm also keeping the Eagle's eye because there isn't anything I can fractal from air.

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Re: Fractal Speed Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg139606#msg139606
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2010, 04:32:33 am »
I'm also keeping the Eagle's eye because there isn't anything I can fractal from air.
Damselfly.  ;)

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Re: Fractal Speed Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg139610#msg139610
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2010, 04:39:28 am »
Damselfly packs a punch of 2 damage. I couldn't have used the air quanta and all my creatures do more than that (Deja vu does four damage!) plus I do like having some creature control for when I'm using my death quanta on physalias/recluses and bloodsuckers. Wow, gonna have to look into taking that recluse out, it's sucking my quanta.

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Re: Fractal Speed Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg139615#msg139615
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2010, 04:47:03 am »
Damselfly packs a punch of 2 damage. I couldn't have used the air quanta and all my creatures do more than that (Deja vu does four damage!) plus I do like having some creature control for when I'm using my death quanta on physalias/recluses and bloodsuckers. Wow, gonna have to look into taking that recluse out, it's sucking my quanta.
Sounds like you should try swapping the spider for another hourglass or another physalia.

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Re: Fractal Speed Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg139620#msg139620
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2010, 04:50:26 am »
The only reason I'd Fractal the Bloodsucker is if your opponent has an Eclipse, and even then the Frog is just as good.
Now thinking of adding eclipse and a skeleton (fractal skeletons with eclipse are 4/3 for 1 death quanta, fractal bloodsuckers are 5/2 for 2 darkness quanta)

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Re: Fractal Speed Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11325.msg139623#msg139623
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2010, 04:52:33 am »
Damselfly packs a punch of 2 damage. I couldn't have used the air quanta and all my creatures do more than that (Deja vu does four damage!) plus I do like having some creature control for when I'm using my death quanta on physalias/recluses and bloodsuckers. Wow, gonna have to look into taking that recluse out, it's sucking my quanta.
Sounds like you should try swapping the spider for another hourglass or another physalia.

The hourglass might mess with my time quanta for deja vu which occasionally can win me battles. Physalia makes sense. BTW I'm testing this in game (not trainer), so make I'm going to make sure I look into things before buying.

 

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