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[RavingRabbid]

by RavingRabbid

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Quantabalance: Seems good after some testing


Pandebonium results: 3-2 (It's all about getting a purify, and knowing how to play it. I got 1 in 5 matches. Sadly, AI can't hold it up so it's stupid to test).
MonoDeath results: 0-0
Bonebolt results: 10-0 (Using Tiko's variant. 5 games me, 5 games AI.)
Novacluse results: 4-6 (I tested like Bonebolt, but using a 9-upgrade version of the NovaCluse. That might mean something).

[Tiko]

If we stay with the Crawltal for

by Tiko

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I'd prefer this variant, for it's stability, and fast (kinda..) quanta production. You can almost always expect a 2nd turn crawler on your side - and Fractal can be sometimes ignored too, as even a few starting crawlers can cause some pain while hiding behind a shield. I ditched the bolts, because I found it not that necessary against many Death-decks, but tossing in 2 (32cards) does make you feel a little more safe sometimes. More may hurt the consistency, as far as I noticed.

Anyway, the deck stands a chance.

Also, what will our reinforcements be? Do we have a wishlist for that?

[RavingRabbid]

I realized I'm the one fighting Death, so I could have three more 'grades.

[Jappert]

Current Overview:
 : Crawtal
 : Valkyrie
 : Gravity/Water duo with Titans/Chargers?
 : Unknown? Something with EQ's?
 : Poisonrush
 : Dic's Firebeater/basher

[Tiko]

I realized I'm the one fighting Death, so I could have three more 'grades.

Pillars and/or Pends. Or Fractal.

[Shantu]

Gillero:

Test against these decks please:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32708.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32973.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32672.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32663.0.html

Test using these decks please:

Dic's Firebeater

by Shantu

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Dic's Firebasher

by Shantu

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Tested the Firebeater against those four decks and.. total failure. It can't beat any of them, save the first with a great draw. They have too much control for your slow and expensive dragons.
I will try the second deck later, but I don't expect much better results.

[Jappert]

Testing vs :

by Jappert

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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33090.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32985.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32964.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32938.0.html

Played vs AI who sometimes made retarded choices.

Ghostmare results: 5-5
(AI not using EE Snipe when it has the quanta, always Inflates before Snipe) I played 5 with , 5 with . AI can't play either deck properly.

Novabow results: 8-3
CC > Graboids/Gargoyles. Steal > Fog/EE. This matchup will be insanely close. It's basically Dusk vs Fog.

Devtal results: 7-4
AI autoplays creatures wich makes them die to CC more quickly.

PU Dragons results: 7-5
AI saving it's icebolts for a nuke instead of killing LS'ed Dragons. I played all 12 matches using .

[Daguerreo]

Daguerreo!

Test vs these decks please:

a-ye a-ye sir

[Jappert]

I will use the Valkyrie deck I just posted then. I have a good shot at beating all those decks.

If they use momentumed, overdriven Voodoo's with catapults/LS on the side... We're dead.

[Daguerreo]

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Test vs these decks:

Earth-Aether

by Daguerreo

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Dag    4-1  AI    3 short victory, seems impossible to avoid fractal, but AI played wrong, using fractal always on gnome rider
Dag    4-1  AI 

Well, seems Ice Bolt can change way of the match, dealing damage with bolt when dim shield is in game, but it need an early fog at least.
Seems we need a bit of luck to beat it, most of match are influenced a lot with good/bad hand.

Earth-Time

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Dag    2-5  AI 
Dag    4-2  AI 

Nothing much to say, their deck > our deck.

Rainbow

by Daguerreo

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Dag    3-3  AI  1-1 I didn't draw fog and it kill mi quickly. 2-1 I used bolts with low quanta only to freeze its pulvy, I won thanks to this. 2-2 Combo bolt+shockwave broke its pulvy, but no fog and lost. Broke twice pulvy.
Dag    0-0  AI 

No fog = almost sure a defeat
Combo bolt+shockwave seems very useful against pulvys


http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33001.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32967.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32928.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33034.0.html

Test in progress:

[Jappert]

For round 5:
Might wanna get 3 BH's from this event card so we can own Team UW with a Drunkyard BH deck!

[Jappert]

Possible counter:

Essential Tremor (Essential tremor is a slowly progressive neurological disorder)

Basic version:

by Jappert

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- If all else fails, rush!

Anti EQ version:

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- Better Quanta split vs EQ's.
- Faster Trident/EQ's

PRO's
- Beats immortal? (untested)
- Beats their quanta heavy :aetehr decks? (untested)

CON's
- Novabow's....
- Pulverizer
- Can have slow EQ/Trident/Freeze draws.