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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg469756#msg469756
« Reply #108 on: March 11, 2012, 05:42:26 pm »
I have a feeling that RoL/Hope will get a twist with new SoP. :D

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg469775#msg469775
« Reply #109 on: March 11, 2012, 06:22:49 pm »
To add a few things:
The SoP do stack. However, the effect doesn't. If you manually remove it, the entire stack will be destroyed. Stacking SoP over the old one also removes the ability to destroy it that turn. So you must wait another turn to remove it. Thus, stacking SoP is capable but not recommended because of no positive aspect but many negative ones.

The attack increasing effect affects all creatures, including those frozen or already delayed. Newly infested cells will still attack for that turn only, since the delaying effect comes in before any of the creatures attack. It affects immortal creatures, including burrowed ones. With Adren, it acts normally, only delaying the first attack. In case of burrowed creatures, the bonus attack will be doubled upon unburrowing.

The price cost seems too low, though. Maybe 5 :rainbow | 3 :rainbow like typical shard cost would be enough?
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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg469836#msg469836
« Reply #110 on: March 11, 2012, 09:04:58 pm »
I assume that cells get the +4/+4 bonus if flooded.
Water/death synergy just keeps on getting stronger and stronger...

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg469839#msg469839
« Reply #111 on: March 11, 2012, 09:11:21 pm »
I assume that cells get the +4/+4 bonus if flooded.
Water/death synergy just keeps on getting stronger and stronger...
Do they? I thought only water creatures in flooded get that bonus. If so, that beta deck I made would be much stronger.

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg469848#msg469848
« Reply #112 on: March 11, 2012, 09:27:41 pm »
Warning: Malignant cells in flooded areas DO NOT get +4/+4. Only +1/+0.
Shame, there goes my silly FG deck. Still works shockingly well as mono death. Afla Skele + skull + SoP. SMACK.

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg469853#msg469853
« Reply #113 on: March 11, 2012, 09:36:01 pm »
Warning: Malignant cells in flooded areas DO NOT get +4/+4. Only +1/+1.
Shame, there goes my silly FG deck. Still works shockingly well as mono death. Afla Skele + skull + SoP. SMACK.
Why +1|+1? Shouldn't it be either +1|+0 or +4|+4?

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg469857#msg469857
« Reply #114 on: March 11, 2012, 09:49:01 pm »
Warning: Malignant cells in flooded areas DO NOT get +4/+4. Only +1/+1.
Shame, there goes my silly FG deck. Still works shockingly well as mono death. Afla Skele + skull + SoP. SMACK.
Why +1|+1? Shouldn't it be either +1|+0 or +4|+4?
Should be +1/+0, like what happens now.
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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg469894#msg469894
« Reply #115 on: March 11, 2012, 11:02:35 pm »
Typo, fixed. Thanks. Brain has decided to shut off today.

Custom AI6 both played this, and stopped it when he had enough damage on the board. So AI is trained. Might be a bit tricky finding out how the formula works (I assume number of creatures vs potential damage, along with sheilds, sundial, sosac)

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg469896#msg469896
« Reply #116 on: March 11, 2012, 11:09:44 pm »
Hmm it may be a viable choice vs sosac now. Good idea anyway because the previous one was just meh.
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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg469900#msg469900
« Reply #117 on: March 11, 2012, 11:13:31 pm »
Hmm it may be a viable choice vs sosac now. Good idea anyway because the previous one was just meh.
SoP is nearly a hard counter to SoSa, especially if you have more than 1, since you can basically control when your creatures attack.

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg470061#msg470061
« Reply #118 on: March 12, 2012, 12:44:04 pm »
Are the creatures gaining +1|0 every turn as long as SoP is in play ?

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg470079#msg470079
« Reply #119 on: March 12, 2012, 02:46:02 pm »
Are the creatures gaining +1|0 every turn as long as SoP is in play ?
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