Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena]

[Plantifant]

Maybe someone has new ideas for this deck with salvagers? to bypass PC

[Reid4891]

Maybe someone has new ideas for this deck with salvagers? to bypass PC

What should you need salvagers for? Beside the fact you need  or  to play them, the first target of PC are the sundials which means that you'll get damage even if you have salvagers.

If you're worried about  having enough to play SoSac, I suggest to put more towers instead of SoD.

I'm currently playing this deck in Gold like this and it works fine (it wins less or more the same as before).

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[presspl4y]

Before 1.32 I would use Poison Dials and Nova ReadyFoPhar (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,42997) to grind platinum arena.  Other than their high win rates, these two were my favorite because as the decks in platinum changed day to day, if PDials was losing, NovaRFP would work well, and vice versa.  Patch 1.32 killed NovaRFP and I've been looking for a suitable replacement since. 

Anyway, I love this deck.  The high EM probability with great win % against A.I. is unmatched, and being able to quickly identify if you should quit the match and move on to the next game is a great bonus.  Thanks a ton for posting this deck!

Here is a win I pulled today.  Thank you Poison Dials!

[eaglgenes101]

Before 1.32 I would use Poison Dials and Nova ReadyFoPhar (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,42997) to grind platinum arena.  Other than their high win rates, these two were my favorite because as the decks in platinum changed day to day, if PDials was losing, NovaRFP would work well, and vice versa.  Patch 1.32 killed NovaRFP and I've been looking for a suitable replacement since. 

Decks with similar strengths and weaknesses to Nova RFP include control speedbows and domination immorushes. Try taking a look here and see what looks interesting:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,45840.msg1034931.html#new

[CrockettRocket]

On page 11. The chart for PDials shows dream catcher as hope he gets a bad hand. what would dream catchers bad hand look like? No discord or 5th turn BE?  Or both. 

[Reid4891]

On page 11. The chart for PDials shows dream catcher as hope he gets a bad hand. what would dream catchers bad hand look like? No discord or 5th turn BE?  Or both. 

An early Discord is the worst card it can play. I'd say a bad hand for it it's an hand without Discord, Quicksand, BE and Pests. Another problem it's it having enough damage on the field to fuel your SoSac, so if it plays a fate egg and gets a good creature, that's good.

Anyway the chart has been made during 1.31. I think Dream Catchter is one of the FG who benefited the most from the 1.32 update. Now that SoSac cost 2  it's gonna be a lot harder to beat it.

[xshadowcastx]

This is the current version of this deck that I am running to pretty ridiculous ends.  Skip anything with healing, skip discord/BH, skip anyone using purify, and run with it against all others.  I have had this win even against VERY steal heavy decks in FG/Plat Arena.  I love it.  All of it's counters are hard counters, but everything else really has a hard time keeping up with a good draw.  It even has beaten discord/BH decks when set up early enough.

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[pulli23]

How does one play this deck vs seism? I never get enough quanta to play either enough poisons or sosacs...

[ColorlessGreen]

How does one play this deck vs seism? I never get enough quanta to play either enough poisons or sosacs...

It helps if you're playing a version that uses both pends and towers, for starters, but:

Play one tower at a time until you're sure he's out of earthquakes - one tower (the turn after you play it, even if it gets quaked) is enough to play any one death card in your deck. Get arsenic out ASAP. If you get unlucky and bottomdeck all of your arsenics, you've probably lost. Once you're fairly confident he doesn't have any more earthquakes right now, if you've got an arsenic out or are otherwise feeling lucky, feel free to dump any additional towers/pends you've got and keep your fingers crossed that you can put together a fairly good quanta pool before they get quaked. If you can manage an early arsenic, you can survive without some of your poisons, so if you're not already in a situation where you're confident you can sosac-chain, you might want to hold off on the poisons. You probably don't want to draw off your sundials much (if at all) due to stone skins. If you can manage it, an early sosac will force him to burrow his shriekers, which will remain burrowed indefinitely, which helps a lot in keeping alive. If you can manage it, it's a good idea to hold some sundials until you're confident that your quanta pool will take you through the game just in case you have bad luck with getting enough for your sosacs.

TL;DR: get arsenic ASAP, don't draw (usually) from sundials, use pends, no more than one each tower/pend on the table at a time until you're sure he has no quakes in hand.

[iancudorinmarian]

Ferox should be changed to "very hard"

[antiaverage]

Gratz ian, that's a tough win

[timetock]

it's kinda disorienting to see two SoSers above and below each other

on another note, it's really easy to get EM with this deck and get a 700 gain from plat