Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena]

[iancudorinmarian]

can you update osiris and akebono plz?

Done but they should still be easy.

Thank you, but still, at Osiris, you should say "SoFo breaks sundial chain" or something like this (like at akebono)

[Sevs]

can you update osiris and akebono plz?

Done but they should still be easy.

Thank you, but still, at Osiris, you should say "SoFo breaks sundial chain" or something like this (like at akebono)

I figured the idea of PC breaking the chain is sort of self explanatory.

[iancudorinmarian]

yes, but some players may not know that.

[Luminous]

yes, but some players may not know that.

What do you exactly mean ? Nobody is THAT stupid to dont care SoFo.

[kimham8a]

yes, but some players may not know that.

What do you exactly mean ? Nobody is THAT stupid to dont care SoFo.

I don't know, some people do strange things... XD

[Reid4891]

How is possible to win against Elidnis? I followed the instructions here, but in my games it uses TU on its creatures despite the SoSac (maybe it didn't before?), plus it keeps playing Feral Bonds. In all my games so far (4, I know it's not enough to make a statistic but still) it never played less than 3 Feral Bonds and 2 TU, which means that it can at least heal for +15 healing at turn (usually more). I can't see how you can overcome that since I never went close to it. This is my last game lol (I got Arsenic too late I know but even if I'd get it before the outcome would have been the same):




Tell me if there is some trick I didn't get.

[kimham8a]

How is possible to win against Elidnis? I followed the instructions here, but in my games it uses TU on its creatures despite the SoSac (maybe it didn't before?), plus it keeps playing Feral Bonds. In all my games so far (4, I know it's not enough to make a statistic but still) it never played less than 3 Feral Bonds and 2 TU, which means that it can at least heal for +15 healing at turn (usually more). I can't see how you can overcome that since I never went close to it. This is my last game lol (I got Arsenic too late I know but even if I'd get it before the outcome would have been the same):




Tell me if there is some trick I didn't get.

Elidnis is pretty hard IMO, but if you get a little lucky with your draw and get fast poison + Elidnis doesn't get many bonds or TU or the quanta for those things, you can win. You probably just weren't lucky that game. Generally if Elidnis has that many bonds and creatures out you should quit.

[Reid4891]

Elidnis is pretty hard IMO, but if you get a little lucky with your draw and get fast poison + Elidnis doesn't get many bonds or TU or the quanta for those things, you can win. You probably just weren't lucky that game. Generally if Elidnis has that many bonds and creatures out you should quit.

I'll keep trying but I can hardly think of a situation like that. You have to play for many rounds with this deck so I can't see how Elidnis wouldn't get enough Feral Bonds and TU in the meantime. In the OP Eldinis is 3-3 

Anyway I don't think this deck can really go (much) above 60% win rate vs FG. I find the win rate posted in the OP quite odd.

[kimham8a]

Elidnis is pretty hard IMO, but if you get a little lucky with your draw and get fast poison + Elidnis doesn't get many bonds or TU or the quanta for those things, you can win. You probably just weren't lucky that game. Generally if Elidnis has that many bonds and creatures out you should quit.

I'll keep trying but I can hardly think of a situation like that. You have to play for many rounds with this deck so I can't see how Elidnis wouldn't get enough Feral Bonds and TU in the meantime. In the OP Eldinis is 3-3 

Anyway I don't think this deck can really go (much) above 60% win rate vs FG. I find the win rate posted in the OP quite odd.

Once I found the Instosis winrate was really around 30%, but as I played 100+ games I finally got the winrate in the OP, so maybe it's just getting used to it. Eg its hard to get Octane to get 2 EE before 2+ UG, but I've done Octane 1-2 as far as I can remember with this deck.

[rob77dp]

Once I found the Instosis winrate was really around 30%, but as I played 100+ games I finally got the winrate in the OP, so maybe it's just getting used to it.

Instosis win rate of 30%???!?  I have 230 matches played with Instosis and have a 54.8% (54.5% normalized) win rate so far (including skips) and have seen similar win rates around the forums.  It also tends to win faster than Poison Dials SoSac with a 9.5 TTW, 199 sec/match from my 230 match stats.  I suppose which you choose also hinges on getting the x6 SoSa or x4 SoR first - I got the SoR first (still don't have x6 SoSa) and built Instosis to FG farm.

Just my 2 in response to the quote about 30% Instosis win-rate.

[Reid4891]

I think he (kim) meant that Instosis win rate was only 30% until he played enough matches. My Instosis winrate is 54,65% after 2002 matches, so I can say yours (rob) is correct.

With PoisonDial I'm at 60,09% after 212 matches so far, I don't think I can go much higher. In the long run it seems you lose very often against medium FG that in the OP have a very good score (one above all is Dream Catcher, 6-1 is something I don't understand, it almost always play an early Discord and I usually have only 1 tower and there is quicksand also) and you can even lose against easy deck with a bad hand (once I got 1 sundial and 0 SoSac and I've been rushed to death by Akebono). While with Instosis I had some FG I was getting better results than the OP and some that I was getting worse results, with PoisonDial they're pretty much all a little (and some a lot) worse.

[Sevs]

Elidnis I am pretty sure I got pretty lucky on but that kind of RNG variation is hard to keep level in only ~5 games per god. This probably goes for octane as well. Even playing octane with other decks there are times where it draws every UG right off the bat or it starts out with a crazy number of OE's, it is really unstable.

As for DC, I still never really had a problem with it maybe not 6-1 quality but if you save your towers to play 2 at a time with a poison, I find it isn't terrible.

And then with the addition of SoF, changes to purify, 60% doesn't seem so bad.