Best Lava Destroyer Rush

[bucky1andonly]

Exaclty BluePriest.

@wavedash
Why are you comparing maximum damage output of decks?  That would only ever be needed when facing miracle or ferox I would think. 

[BluePriest]

Exactly. As Jmdt has stated, this is a good build. whether you like his attitude or not, bucky made a solid deck, and picking it appart will only make yourself look foolish.

[wavedash]

Because, the battle isnt going to last long enough to get all your creatures out.

I have a problem with this. AI3 now have Dimensional Shields, Wings, Procrastination, Lightning, Rage Potion, I already covered this.

[BluePriest]

Because, the battle isnt going to last long enough to get all your creatures out.

I have a problem with this. AI3 now have Dimensional Shields, Wings, Procrastination, Lightning, Rage Potion, I already covered this.

And yet, it is still very possible to beat them before they have a chance to play those cards, and  even if they do play those, the battle isnt going to last more than 12 turns 199/200 times.  You may have a problem with it, however, it is a fact, not an opinion.

[guy_fawkes]

I am the best,
and this deck is not me,
so it's not the best,
end of the discussion

[Flash fire]

Blue priest, i still feel that the deck lacks important aspects that my lava rush deck does not.

He lacks survivability, yea the ai3 may have creature control and stall tactics and that would ultimately beat him. My deck however can throw golems who can take a lightbolt, can stop shields, can even grant me an extra turn on turn 1, even have creature control or golem buffers.

Each card that i have in my deck has won me a game only because of the card.

Miracle, divine glory, and paradox all fell due to silence.

Osirus, ferox, and chaos lord all fell due to rage potion.

Seism and dark matter all fell to cremation.

Hermes, decay, octane, and neptune all fell to heavy armor.

Dream catcher, firefly queen, and rainbow all fell to the sheer speed and brute force of my deck.

and finally, obliterator and that aether god (cant remember name) fell to explosion.

The one deck that I cant beat is probably minor phoenix although i have had fluke wins over him.

I know a thing or two about cremation decks, its all about speed and versatility. Your deck lacks both. Add some CC and golem buffs

[lukce]

Thats what I am saying. This deck need variance.

[jmdt]

Blue priest, i still feel that the deck lacks important aspects that my lava rush deck does not.

He lacks survivability, yea the ai3 may have creature control and stall tactics and that would ultimately beat him. My deck however can throw golems who can take a lightbolt, can stop shields, can even grant me an extra turn on turn 1, even have creature control or golem buffers.

Each card that i have in my deck has won me a game only because of the card.

Miracle, divine glory, and paradox all fell due to silence.

Osirus, ferox, and chaos lord all fell due to rage potion.

Seism and dark matter all fell to cremation.

Hermes, decay, octane, and neptune all fell to heavy armor.

Dream catcher, firefly queen, and rainbow all fell to the sheer speed and brute force of my deck.

and finally, obliterator and that aether god (cant remember name) fell to explosion.

The one deck that I cant beat is probably minor phoenix although i have had fluke wins over him.

I know a thing or two about cremation decks, its all about speed and versatility. Your deck lacks both. Add some CC and golem buffs

All the extra cards you add here ultimately slow the 'pure speed' of the deck.  Unless you are facing sheilds, momentum is a dead low damage card, packing heavy CC takes away from the speed.  This deck is designed to be as pure of a rush as possible.  By defination, rush deck only have attacking cards and the ability to get them out as fast as possible.  Rushes aren't about survivability per say, they hope to win before the opponent gets set up.

If you bash this deck for being a rush, you must also bash the shrieker rush, adrenaline rush, etc and we know those work.  This is no different than any other rush in objective or win condition.  You guys are comparing apples to oranges.

[BluePriest]

Exactly. He said his deck CAN beat fgs, in fact, why not take a look at what he said again.

not recommended but I have beaten fgs with this, once in 7 turns, quite a few in 8 turns, and a bit more in 9 turns, naturally the fgs either couldnt deal enough damage or they drew crap,

So in other words, he already said this ISNT for fgs. He just said it is possible. He isnt bragging about how its the best fg killer out there. Why dont we stop trying to bash the deck, and just admit it is a solid build.

[Flash fire]

my deck is as fast as it can be. it has 12 monster not including the rol fodders, i merely put the extra 6-7 slots to better use than towers.

Towers slow it down and heres why. Its all about the opening hand, towers take away cards from that opening hand.

I have dragons, golems, and phoenixs.

Those all boost the speed of my deck. His deck as it is will never reach the 3 turn kill range is where im getting at. The deck can indeed be fast, and people may find a deck faster than mine, but the 3 turn range will not be reachable without dragons or a gavel.

With that said, the FGs i beaten only shows the importants of each card i added

[Flash fire]

However, with all that said, i like the build idea, just take the phoenixs out, they only slow you down, add something stronger or upgrade them

[BluePriest]

people may find a deck faster than mine, but the 3 turn range will not be reachable without dragons or a gavel.

It helps to read the forum before posting... then you would know if what you said actually has been answered or not...

  Very rarely do I leave the opponent at 1 hp with this deck, so gavels are not needed, the vamp daggers will actually help beat other rush decks.

Also, I would rather have a deck that has an avg of 5 ttw, that never 3 turn kills, than a deck with an avg of 6 ttw, that occasionally 3 turn kills. HOWEVER, I am curious about the dragons. That MAY make it faster, however, It may make it more fragile.

However, with all that said, i like the build idea, just take the phoenixs out, they only slow you down, add something stronger or upgrade them

Do you realize how contradictory that statement is? If he upgrades them, they will only slow him down...

@Bucky Have you considered using dragons? They may in fact speed up the deck. The 1 damage from the gavel isnt much, but the dragons add 8 dmg... that may be worth looking into.