Best Lava Destroyer Rush

[lukce]

I suggest willy tests this deck. If its fast it should be in ttw study, right?

[wavedash]

Guys bucky1andonly is a long time player and experienced deck builder.  Please show him and his deck just a bit of respect.

So you're saying people's decks deserve more respect if they builder has been around a while. Because that makes sense and is fair.

Now to the deck.  My only concern here is that the deck needs 58 quanta and only 54 is supplied from cremeation.  Otherwise, it looks like a fun deck.

I guess you could try upgrading one Phoenix or something.

[bucky1andonly]

Well unless I start with all 6 ball lightnings or all 6 cremates, and all my draws are either ball lightnings or cremate (having all 6 of the other), the 58 quanta won't come into effect, and if that should happen I wouldn't be doing any damage.  The match is usually over by turn 6.  If it is drawn out so I have to play everything I can, not being able to play 1 phoenix is not a big deal.

[ddevans96]

Guys bucky1andonly is a long time player and experienced deck builder.  Please show him and his deck just a bit of respect.

It could win every game in 4 or less turns and I still wouldn't respect the deckbuilder if he wanted to insult people for no real reason on his deck thread. By calling people who are only making comments 'idiots', even if the comment is fairly stupid, he's flaming and as such I have reported his posts.

Regardless this looks like a very good deck and a fun one to play. If this actually is the fastest deck in the game I have a new deck to aim for.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

I have no problem whatsoever regarding the deck itself (it looks just fine)
What I do have a problem with however, is how he straight-up calls the "best", he may be a better player than me, and this deck may be a very good and fast one, but Elements is one of those games where "best" doesn't exist.

[Flash fire]

Not even close to the best, not even close to fastest, so you beat false gods... so does my cremation deck.

Let me pick you apart right now.


Mark of time is useless you get time from cremations. Get earth so you can actually grow your lava golems.

Get a gavel. if you truly want to be the best. fastest. whatever your claiming to be. youll need that cheap 7 damage.

Why unupgraded phoenixs? they only slow you down and make you rely on ROL for fodders. Where say i get a rol a phoenix, 3 cremation, and 2 dragons and a gavel. boom 37 damage on turn one, you cant do that with only rol fodders.

I can also go into more complex stuff but that would be telling. keep working thought, i like the creativity, just not what it does for your deck.

Also can i see kevkev's deck, now you have me curious lol

[Daxx]

Let's not flame other users, please.

[TheCrazyMango]

Guys bucky1andonly is a long time player and experienced deck builder.  Please show him and his deck just a bit of respect.

Now to the deck.  My only concern here is that the deck needs 58 quanta and only 54 is supplied from cremeation.  Otherwise, it looks like a fun deck.

darn 6 hour ninjas. but yea this might really become a problem since you have all the drawing power

[TheIdioticIdiot]

I was referring to kevkev60614's deck in the trial of fire

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[jmdt]

I have no problem whatsoever regarding the deck itself (it looks just fine)
What I do have a problem with however, is how he straight-up calls the "best", he may be a better player than me, and this deck may be a very good and fast one, but Elements is one of those games where "best" doesn't exist.

Of course 'the best' exists, its called USEM. 

[thatnewguy]

I have no problem whatsoever regarding the deck itself (it looks just fine)
What I do have a problem with however, is how he straight-up calls the "best", he may be a better player than me, and this deck may be a very good and fast one, but Elements is one of those games where "best" doesn't exist.

Of course 'the best' exists, its called USEM. 

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[funplay]

I watched this topic for a while and wasnt sure if it would be a good idea to comment...too much flaming around here...

anyway, here are my 2 cents...

The author knows his deck best, so maybe bucky1andonly can answer these questions:

1) Why are the phoenix unupped? I always thought (and thats the way i play lava rushs right now) that its normally better to use minor phoenix, as you can play 1 destroyer and 2 minor phoenix with a single cremation?

2) Concerning mark...does this deck make extensive use of the lava destroyers growth? Cause i would expect the deck to have only very few earth quanta (as Flash Fire already mentioned)...furthermore: how many of your precogs do you usually play in those 4-6 turns?

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