Duos of Opposing elements as soft PC

[SnoWeb]

Duos of Opposing elements as soft PC The series is a personal brainstorming to generate new ideas for PC. I imposed myself some rules in order to make it more fun: It as to be a creature with a PC ability of some sort. It has to have an ability of the opposing element (regarding the one of the card). From said 2 elements - the card will be done out of the element with the less creatures.

In the crucible - Please vote for:

Dust Tornado | Dust Twister (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26803.0.html) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26803.0.html) Crucible (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5519.0.html)	Sheut | Ib (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26362.0.html) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26362.0.html) Crucible (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5513.0.html)
Redeemer | Zealot (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27040.0.html) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27040.0.html) Crucible (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5522.0.html)	Faun | Deadly Faun (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27401.0.html) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27401.0.html) Crucible (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5024.0.html)

Smithy - soon to be submitted to crucible - Please comment:

Lure | Elite Lure (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27047.0.html) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27047.0.html) Smithy

Singularity | Incongruity (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27049.0.html) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27049.0.html) Smithy (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5515.0.html)

Retired Ideas :

Shatterpillar | Caterpillar Nibbler (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26998.0.html) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26998.0.html) Retired	Shatterpillar (cocoon)| Nibbler (cocoon) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26998.0.html) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26998.0.html) Retired
Lure | Elite Lure (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27047.0.html) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27047.0.html) Retired	Fog Decoy | Myst Decoy (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27047.0.html) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27047.0.html) Retired

[The_Mormegil]

Nice serie.

[Saynt]

Can you explain why  and  are opposites? I can understand  and  , but I personally think that  is unchanging, and therefore contrasts with  (constant change and chaos), and  is related to space, and  is time?

[ddevans96]

Can you explain why  and  are opposites? I can understand  and  , but I personally think that  is unchanging, and therefore contrasts with  (constant change and chaos), and  is related to space, and  is time?

= order
= chaos

= space
= time (duh)

Gravity is only associated with space (as in planetary and galaxial matter) because many objects in space have high gravity and mass.

[SnoWeb]

Nice serie.

Thanks.

Can you explain why  and  are opposites?

As ddevans96 said, in elements gravity (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22323.0.html) represent order (mainly at a macroscopic scale). As an opposite entropy (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22136.0.html) represent chaos. These two ideas put together made me go toward the limits of the known laws (Einstein's relativity). That why the creature is named singularity. Also, some of the paradox revealed by said theory are sometimes explained by alternate reality, so the ability name ...

2 card ideas like Shatterpillar and Cocoon tend to do only as well as (or worse than) the First card in the absence of the second in the poll system. There is also the theory that the game would be better off with Fireflys (which would be suggested first and upon acceptance by Zanz a Firefly Queen could be suggested) than with Malignant Cells (token second cards presented with the first.)[...]

Ib looks good. [...] Zealot looks good.

Thanks for your whole analysis. Your PM was a bit longer. I just kept here what I didn't comment directly in the card's threads (see Dust Tornado | Dust Twister (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26803.0.html), Singularity | Incongruity (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27049.0.html), Shatterpillar | Caterpillar Nibbler (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26998.0.html) and Lure | Elite Lure (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27047.0.html)).

I decided to drop the two most complicated ideas, namely Shatterpillar | Caterpillar Nibbler together with the cocoons (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26998.0.html) and Lure | Elite Lure together with the decoys (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27047.0.html)). I'll keep the threads alive for anyone wanting to suggest a rework.

Sheut | Ib (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26362.0.html) and Dust Tornado | Dust Twister (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26803.0.html) are already in their respective crucibles but comment are always welcome and some modifications are still possible.

I am still having second thought about the upped version of Redeemer | Zealot (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27040.0.html) but I should submit it to the crucible soon enough (in a version very close to this one). Singularity | Incongruity (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27049.0.html) still needs some thinking but might eventually end up in the crucible too. Don't hesitate to help me finalise it...

[SnoWeb]

Update:

• / : Redeemer | Zealot (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27040.0.html) is now in the crucible.
• / : Shatterpillar | Caterpillar Nibbler (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26998.0.html) is a dead idea and is replaced by Faun | Deadly Faun (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27401.0.html). Have a look.
• / : for Lure | Elite Lure (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26998.0.html) the rework session has started. Some comments/suggestion would be welcome.
• / : Singularity | Incongruity (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27049.0.html) still needs some thinking but might eventually end up in the crucible too. Don't hesitate to help me finalise it...

[Svenningen]

Update:

• / : Singularity | Incongruity (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27049.0.html) still needs some thinking but might eventually end up in the crucible too. Don't hesitate to help me finalise it...

Wont it die before its able to use its ability? how about making it 1|1 with a poison encounter on it or something?

[SnoWeb]

Wont it die before its able to use its ability? how about making it 1|1 with a poison encounter on it or something?

Gravity has momentum and entropy has chaos power. So it could survive. However, their is a discussion in the thread about how to balance it vis a vis fractal: have a look (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27049.0.html).
The poison thing doesn't look very appealing to me. It fit thematically neither with the creature idea nor with the elements it uses.