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Re: Wait a momentum! (Unupped deck for Bronze Arena) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41397.msg513153#msg513153
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2012, 02:14:59 pm »
To me it looks like it has a weakness against weapons, since they bypass the sundails and CC fired at the player
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Re: Wait a momentum! (Unupped deck for Bronze Arena) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41397.msg513157#msg513157
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2012, 02:26:49 pm »
To me it looks like it has a weakness against weapons, since they bypass the sundails and CC fired at the player

and how many decks in bronze based their win condition on their single weapon on the weapon slot?

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Re: Wait a momentum! (Unupped deck for Bronze Arena) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41397.msg513160#msg513160
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2012, 02:30:24 pm »
To me it looks like it has a weakness against weapons, since they bypass the sundails and CC fired at the player

and how many decks in bronze based their win condition on their single weapon on the weapon slot?
I didn't say that, I ment that decks with a weapon will be harder ( think about fahrenheit)
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Re: Wait a momentum! (Unupped deck for Bronze Arena) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41397.msg513163#msg513163
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2012, 02:40:34 pm »
To me it looks like it has a weakness against weapons, since they bypass the sundails and CC fired at the player

and how many decks in bronze based their win condition on their single weapon on the weapon slot?
I didn't say that, I ment that decks with a weapon will be harder ( think about fahrenheit)

decks with good rushing power through creatures are way more dangerous than any deck on bronze that relies on damage through the weapon, and even fahrenheit wouldnt kill you in time

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Re: Wait a momentum! (Unupped deck for Bronze Arena) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41397.msg513164#msg513164
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2012, 02:42:29 pm »
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To me it looks like it has a weakness against weapons, since they bypass the sundails and CC fired at the player

and how many decks in bronze based their win condition on their single weapon on the weapon slot?
I didn't say that, I ment that decks with a weapon will be harder ( think about fahrenheit)

decks with good rushing power through creatures are way more dangerous than any deck on bronze that relies on damage through the weapon, and even fahrenheit wouldnt kill you in time
If they got enough PC to not having to wait for 6 turns...
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Re: Wait a momentum! (Unupped deck for Bronze Arena) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41397.msg513165#msg513165
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2012, 02:44:45 pm »
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To me it looks like it has a weakness against weapons, since they bypass the sundails and CC fired at the player

and how many decks in bronze based their win condition on their single weapon on the weapon slot?
I didn't say that, I ment that decks with a weapon will be harder ( think about fahrenheit)

decks with good rushing power through creatures are way more dangerous than any deck on bronze that relies on damage through the weapon, and even fahrenheit wouldnt kill you in time
If they got enough PC to not having to wait for 6 turns...

then you get killed by their creatures, not their weapon...

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Re: Wait a momentum! (Unupped deck for Bronze Arena) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41397.msg513166#msg513166
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2012, 02:49:07 pm »
I that time the weapon allready dealt enough dammage to leave to rest up to the creatures
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Re: Wait a momentum! (Unupped deck for Bronze Arena) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41397.msg513201#msg513201
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2012, 05:33:52 pm »
About weapons: this is why I'm in favor of the Stiletto, its +4 heal counter enemy's weapon. The most common is Lobo in Mono Aether which gives the AI only +1 against you during Sundials time.

About aggro decks: I agree they are far more dangerous than anything else, it's often a matter of who had the better draw.

About bronze decks: by far the most common Bronze deck I encountered is Mono Aether, and this deck has a fair chance to win (you ignore their shield, they can't steal/destroy anything from you, you can send scorpions out at the end and if AI has lightning is gonna use it and take another extra damage from neurotoxin). Mono Aether is an hard fight for any unupped deck I know and this deck gives you a good chance to beat it and have a solid tactic versus other decks. Obviously it's not perfect and A LOT OF upped decks are better than this one, still if you just started this gives you a decent chance to win in Arena some shards (I got 3 shards, 2 miracles and 3 weapons in 2 days, and I even failed two specials spins).

About pvp: it's not designed for pvp, it's designed for exploiting the fact AI doesn't stop playing cards. Still I managed to win even in pvp2 with it, but it's not a good deck for pvp, I generally use something else for that.

I'm posting a pic of an end of game situation I faced (the most fortunate one, AI couldn't kill all my scorpions and I managed to increase a lot the neurotoxin damage thanks to AI playing all kind of crap) just to give an idea of what could happen in some circumstances. I don't think many cheap decks could have won a match like this one:





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Re: Wait a momentum! (Unupped deck for Bronze Arena) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41397.msg513211#msg513211
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2012, 06:09:09 pm »
You know what you should definitely add? Fog shield.

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Re: Wait a momentum! (Unupped deck for Bronze Arena) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41397.msg513217#msg513217
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2012, 06:23:46 pm »
Looks like a good deck :) And I don't disagree with furball about fog shield. It could definitely help.
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Re: Wait a momentum! (Unupped deck for Bronze Arena) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41397.msg513270#msg513270
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2012, 10:37:02 pm »
I third the fog shield.  It can fit, given the current quanta allotment, and will help TREMENDOUSLY in stalling.
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Re: Wait a momentum! (Unupped deck for Bronze Arena) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41397.msg513273#msg513273
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2012, 10:42:45 pm »
I'm testing this one right now, I got two times to last Bronze match and lost. The fog shield is unluckily the first target of steal/deflag when I'm facing  :fire or  :darkness deck, it's good at stalling  :life decks though.

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