Trying to understand this game

[Feynman]

Hi, i'm new here!

I'm really loving this game, and i think i'm doing good... I'm using the mono Aether to fight the Level 5 elementals, but i'm not winning any cards, and seems like it'll take forever to get enough money to upgrade a card... i'm earning about 30 moneys each win, so if i win every single game, it'll take me 50 wins to upgrade one single card. It seems like i need 6 upgraded cards (and a new deck) to start playing the false gods, acording to another post i read

The problem is, i lose a lot, so it'll take even more wins to get money and upgrade. I lose to momentum decks, and the ones that destroy my shields, and i just lost to a double empathic bond that just healed way more than i could damage, so i ran out of shields, and ocasionally i lose just because of a bad starting hand.

The question i have now is: are the card rolls "crappy" like that or am i just unlucky?

Thanks in advance

PS: apologies for any kind bad english writing, i'm brazilian, and sometimes i just don't know any more words

[stereosound]

I think 2.4% would be the chance to get one if it were statistically sound, I'd say I'm rolling closer to one card every 5-7 games though.

That said, grinding AI5 is possibly the slowest of the methods, you're much better off grinding AI3 for straight money (life rush/grab rush are the best for doing this) and the occasional selling card, or taking a stab at AI4/Top50 for a chance for rares/more fun. It's up to you, though.

[kobisjeruk]

ditch level 5 / halfbloods
until they fix it, grinding (farming) AI5 is the least productive

find yourself a good fast rush deck and grind AI3 / Elder until you have enough for a set of Rays of Light and get yourself a nice RoL/Hope deck

if you are confused with what i'm saying, search the forum with bolded keywords

[LongDono]

AI 5 "halfbloods" are not really worth playing against. Play top 50 alot and you get a fair amount of money, and rare cards. Some people in top 50 make decks that have like 2 rare cards that can not win so they are called farms. If you want to farm top 50 fast look up what a shriker rush is, and a lava golem rush. Both are fast and can win alot in top 50.

[Kuross]

First off, welcome to the forums

Yeah, like Kobis said, AI5 sucks arse and is the least useful AI to grind. When you do get yourself a FG deck, like the RoL/Hope deck, you'll be able to play against FGs but, fair warning, no FG deck exists that can beat every FG every time with a great win percentage. If you are worried about your win/loss percentage, and I know quite a few peepsout there  that are, Ai3 is the place to go. If you want rares faster than normal, a good rush deck can work wonders against Top50. A good, cheap starting deck for Top50 is a simple shrieker rush.

Search the forums and check out all the cool stuuf in the way of decks and strategy, but take some time to check out all the cool things going on as well, like events and whatnot. There are tournaments every weekend where you can win some pretty nice stuff that will help you out with the grind

[Falcon4415]

These are the decks that helped me the most for getting money to build a RoL/Hope deck:
-No Land Stompy (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12102.0.html) (for AI3)
-Vreely's No Upgrade Fire Rush T50 Killer (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3882.0.html) (for T50)

Here you have a lot of decks to choose from, try them in the trainer (http://http:http://www.elementsthegame.com/trainer), see which one you like the most and get it for the real game:
-AI3 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11029.0.html)
-T50 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11026.0.html)

And a study about some decks' speed (with them listed and ranked):
-Turns to win study (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8813.0.html)

Have a look at all the links, there's a lot of useful info there ^

[Feynman]

Thanks a lot guys...

I'm gonna try the Mummy Rush, because it's insanelly cheap, and i won't have to sell anything, or reset my acount to buy it, just grind 150 more electrons.

I don't know the cost of the shrieker rush, or the cost for Vreely's No Upgrade Fire Rush T50 Killer (because it was missing on the topic), but based on the other decks, i think they won't be so cheap...

[Kuross]

Shrieker Rush I'd recommend would cost 866 electrum.

It's good for Ai# and Top50, though the Mummy rush is nice and fun to

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[Feynman]

Shrieker Rush I'd recommend would cost 866 electrum.

It's good for Ai# and Top50, though the Mummy rush is nice and fun to

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Wow, thanks a lot, i'm gonna work on that! The one i found had all sorts of elite cards in it... =P

[Falcon4415]

Yeah, Vreely's costs around 1500 coins, it's a little expensive. It might pay off in the future though, as the cards you use for it are useful for a bunch of other decks. Shrieker/Grab rush would be my second option, but seeing that it costs half of Vreely's  just made it earn some points. Upgrading the deck Kuross gave you also makes for one of the best T50 grinders, so go ahead 

[Feynman]

Thanks again guys, i didn't lose against Level 3 with the shrieker rush yet, it's a great deck.

=]

[LongDono]

Glad to hear it, I know there is 1 AI level 3 that uses artic squid so burrow and save your shrikers or whever you can do.