AI3 True Efficiency Study

[kirchj33]

After doing some work on Blue Priest's (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1776) AI3 EI Study (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21226.0.html), I decided to do a bit of thread hijacking as I think the following is probably better suited for its own discussion:

Similar to the Fgei (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html) used to calculate efficiency in false god farming, what needs to be calculated are the following:
A=Score Change
B=Total Time

The equations used would both be simple as a result:

Score/Time=A/B

*Note that time for losses should also be recorded for this to work.




As an example, I played USEM (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10563.0.html) for 50 games:
A=+1482
B=3972 secs/60=66.2 mins

Score/Time=22.387/min       (1)

We will call this measure In-Game Score Efficiency (1)


You may say, however,  this is not the true efficiency!

You would be correct, as this number does not calculate time between games.  So let's take this one step further (all numbers from here are hypothetical, as I did not calculate actual time played when doing some statistical analysis of USEM way back when).  For this we need total time played.

To calculate this, you would write down the time you began playing, and the time you stopped to determine a total time played.  Let's say you were uber accurate and calculated this, down to the exact second.  (Taking the data I used above and adding a hypothetical 9 seconds between games(end game screen + spins + selecting level 3 at menu)):

*Important Note*- I believe this is better as an estimate, as when you are recording data opposed to farming, you will need time not included in the study to record data.  9 seconds between games should be used to standardize all data.

C=Total Time=4422 secs or 73.7 mins

We then have the following:
A/C=20.109 score/min      (2)

The would represent our True Score Efficiency (2).  This latter "True" efficiency calculation helps normalize data for those decks which farm for speed and for those which are focused on speed + EM's.

In summary:

USEM (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10563.0.html) (50 games)

In-Game Score Efficiency	22.387/min
True Score Efficiency	20.109/min

I believe 200 games, similar to jmdt's (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3818) TTW Study 2.0 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17903.0.html), should be the standard.  I will only be tracking upped decks as those are the only ones that work reliably for EMs.

I will continue to work on the data myself, as it was suggested that time-based efficiency is best performed by one person, as player patience and computer speed can vary quite a bit from person to person.

*I will post Efficiency data in score/hr below as that seems to be the easiest to conceptualize.

[kirchj33]

Upgraded Deck Efficiency

-USEM (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10563.0.html): TSE: 1202.442/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1477, Electrum Change: +1952, Total Time: 66.2 mins, Deck by - jmdt
5 Emerald Tower, 5 Life Pendulum, 2 Long Sword, 6 Giant Frog, 6 Elite Cockatrice, 6 Improved Heal, Life Mark.

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	Raw	Rate
Games	50
Win	48	96%
EM	38	76%
Avg. TTW	7.1875
Avg. Time	79.44 secs
Total Time	1.1033 hrs
Total Score	1477
IG Score Eff	1338.671/hr
True Score Eff.	1202.442/hr

TTW
4	0
5	6
6	17
7	8
8	9
9	3
10	2
11	0
12	2
13	0
14	1
15	0
16	0
17	0
18	0
19	0
20	0

-SCEM (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18665.0.html): TSE: 1139.208/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1343, Electrum Change: +1728, Total Time: 63.23 mins, Deck by - jmdt
6 Entropy Pendulum, 6 Supernova, 3 Chaos Power, 4 Elite Charger, 1 Flesh Recluse, 1 Elite Graboid, 3 Improved Heal, 1 Minor Phoenix, 1 Abyss Crawler, 1 Elite Pegasus, 2 Vampire Dagger, 1 Phase Recluse, Gravity Mark.

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	Raw	Rate
Games	50
Win	48	96%
EM	30	60%
Avg. TTW	6.875
Avg. Time	75.88 secs
Total Time	1.0539 hrs
Total Score	1343
IG Score Eff	1274.328/hr
True Score Eff.	1139.208/hr

TTW
4	2
5	4
6	16
7	11
8	11
9	1
10	2
11	0
12	1
13	0
14	0
15	0
16	0
17	0
18	0
19	0
20	0

-GAEM: Giant Amphibi'EM (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21620.msg295673#msg295673): TSE: 1106.272/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1318, Electrum Change: +1678, Total Time: 63.98 mins, Deck by - jmdt
6 Supernova, 6 Entropy Pendulum, 3 Chaos Power, 1 Flesh Recluse, 1 Elite Graboid, 5 Giant Frogs, 2 Improved Heal, 1 Minor Phoenix, 1 Abyss Crawler, 1 Elite Pegasus, 2 Vampire Dagger, 1 Phase Recluse, Life Mark.

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	Raw	Rate
Games	50
Win	48	96%
EM	32	64%
Avg. TTW	7.1875
Avg. Time	76.78 secs
Total Time	1.0664 hrs
Total Score	1318
IG Score Eff	1235.947/hr
True Score Eff.	1106.272/hr

TTW
4	2
5	8
6	15
7	9
8	4
9	4
10	0
11	3
12	1
13	1
14	0
15	0
16	0
17	1
18	1
19	0
20	0

-Aerial Smooshing (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21643.msg295915#msg295915): TSE: 1040.458/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1313, Electrum Change: +1703, Total Time: 68.22 mins, Deck by - kirchj33
10 Wind Tower, 6 Damselfly, 6 Azure Dragon, 2 Long Sword, 6 Improved Heal, Life Mark.

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	Raw	Rate
Games	50
Win	49	98%
EM	27	54%
Avg. TTW	8.000
Avg. Time	81.86 secs
Total Time	1.1369 hrs
Total Score	1313
IG Score Eff	1154.85/hr
True Score Eff.	1040.458/hr

TTW
4	0
5	0
6	12
7	7
8	10
9	13
10	4
11	2
12	1
13	0
14	0
15	0
16	0
17	0
18	0
19	0
20	0

-Smokey Bear- "Only You Can Prevent Forest Fires" (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21375.msg291949#msg291949): TSE: 1007.318/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1300, Electrum Change: +1655, Total Time: 69.93 mins, Deck by - kirchj33
2 Crimson Dragon, 2 Phoenix, 1 Long Sword, 2 Giant Frog, 6 Improved Heal, 6 Cremation, 4 Minor Phoenix, 6 Ball Lightning, Earth Mark.

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	Raw	Rate
Games	50
Win	47	94%
EM	30	60%
Avg. TTW	7.1063
Avg. Time	83.92 secs
Total Time	1.1656 hrs
Total Score	1300
IG Score Eff	1115.348/hr
True Score Eff.	1007.318/hr

TTW
4	2
5	9
6	10
7	10
8	6
9	4
10	3
11	1
12	1
13	0
14	1
15	2
16	0
17	0
18	0
19	0
20	0

-Upgraded AI3 EM Grinder (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20936.msg287999#msg287999): TSE: 979.074/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1622, Electrum Change: +2092, Total Time: 91.9 mins, Deck by - Bootza
4 Obsidian Tower, 4 Dark Pendulum, 6 Pest, 2 Improved Steal, 2 Eclipse, 2 Vampire Dagger, 5 Siphon Life, 5 Vampire, Darkness Mark.

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	Raw	Rate
Games	50
Win	50	100%
EM	43	86%
Avg. TTW	9.9
Avg. Time	110.28 secs
Total Time	1.531 hrs
Total Score	1622
IG Score Eff	1058.977/hr
True Score Eff.	979.074/hr

TTW
4	0
5	0
6	0
7	5
8	9
9	12
10	10
11	6
12	1
13	2
14	1
15	2
16	2
17	0
18	0
19	0
20	0

-The Healbow (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11831.0.html): TSE: 947.808/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1363, Electrum Change: +1728, Total Time: 78.78 mins, Deck by - jmdt
5 Quantum Tower, 6 Supernova, 2 Flesh Recluse, 1 Elite Charger, 2 Elite Graboid, 3 Improved Heal, 1 Explosion, 2 Minor Phoenix, 1 Abyss Crawler, 1 Improved Fog, 1 Unstable Gas (Upgraded), 2 Precognition (Upgraded), 1 Vampire Dagger, 1 Vampire, 1 Phase Recluse, Entropy Mark.

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	Raw	Rate
Games	50
Win	50	100%
EM	29	58%
Avg. TTW	8.12
Avg. Time	94.52 secs
Total Time	1.3131 hrs
Total Score	1363
IG Score Eff	1038.073/hr
True Score Eff.	947.808/hr

TTW
4	0
5	3
6	9
7	14
8	9
9	5
10	1
11	2
12	4
13	2
14	0
15	0
16	1
17	0
18	0
19	0
20	0

-Totally Upgraded AI3 Mastery Despoiler (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11412.0.html): TSE: 935.039/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1341, Electrum Change: +1691, Total Time: 78.55 mins, Deck by - Essence
5 Obsidian Tower, 6 Pest, 1 Improved Dusk, 2 Eclipse, 1 Vampire Dagger, 6 Vampire, 5 Gargoyle (Upgraded), 4 Dark Pendulum, Darkness Mark.

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	Raw	Rate
Games	50
Win	49	98%
EM	30	60%
Avg. TTW	8.6122
Avg. Time	94.26 secs
Total Time	1.3029 hrs
Total Score	1341
IG Score Eff	1024.316/hr
True Score Eff.	935.039/hr

TTW
4	0
5	0
6	8
7	9
8	12
9	10
10	2
11	2
12	2
13	3
14	0
15	0
16	0
17	0
18	0
19	0
20	1

-DEMA (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12700.0.html): TSE: 923.271/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1220, Electrum Change: +1653, Total Time: 71.78 mins, Deck by - jmdt
4 Nova, 2 Elite Graboid, 3 Improved Heal, 6 Cremeation, 6 Lava Destroyer, 1 Minor Phoenix, 2 Vampire Dagger, 6 Ball Lightning, Earth Mark.

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	Raw	Rate
Games	50
Win	46	92%
EM	26	52%
Avg. TTW	6.761
Avg. Time	86.14 secs
Total Time	1.1196 hrs
Total Score	1220
IG Score Eff	1019.735/hr
True Score Eff.	923.271/hr

TTW
4	3
5	15
6	10
7	5
8	4
9	3
10	4
11	0
12	0
13	0
14	0
15	2
16	0
17	0
18	0
19	0
20	0

-Angry Santa (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12659.0.html): TSE: 912.981/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1266, Electrum Change: +1666, Total Time: 75.7 mins, Deck by - jmdt
3 Crimson Dragon, 1 Long Sword, 5 Improved Heal, 8 Burning Tower, 5 Cremation, 2 Lava Destroyer, 6 Minor Phoenix, Life Mark.

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	Raw	Rate
Games	50
Win	47	94%
EM	28	56%
Avg. TTW	7.681
Avg. Time	90.84 secs
Total Time	1.2617 hrs
Total Score	1266
IG Score Eff	1003.435/hr
True Score Eff.	912.981/hr

TTW
4	1
5	8
6	8
7	8
8	11
9	1
10	3
11	2
12	3
13	1
14	0
15	1
16	0
17	0
18	0
19	0
20	0

-Black Dagger Brotherhood (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21845.msg299075#msg299075): TSE: 897.6454/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1239, Electrum Change: +1574, Total Time: 75.3167 mins, Deck by - kirchj33
6 Werewolf, 6 Chaos Power, 6 Entropy Pendulum, 2 Obsidian Tower, 2 Vampire Dagger, 6 Vampire, 2 Dark Pendulum, Darkness Mark.

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	Raw	Rate
Games	50
Win	48	96%
EM	27	54%
Avg. TTW	8.1042
Avg. Time	90.38 secs
Total Time	1.2553 hrs
Total Score	1239
IG Score Eff	987.033/hr
True Score Eff.	897.645/hr

TTW
4	0
5	0
6	5
7	15
8	13
9	5
10	6
11	3
12	1
13	0
14	0
15	0
16	0
17	0
18	0
19	0
20	0

-MGAL (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12849.0.html)
2 Long Sword, 10 Bone Tower, 2 Ivory Dragon, 6 Flesh Recluse, 5 Elite Mummy, 5 Improved Heal, Life Mark.

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8 Light Tower, 2 Light Pendulum, 4 Improved Blessing, 6 Crusader (Upgraded), 5 Animate Weapon, 5 Vampire Dagger, Darkness Mark.

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*All time statistics include those from losses (except TTW of course)
** Decks posted in order of efficiency, top to bottom.

[jmdt]

Very nice work here.  I'll stay tuned.

BTW, MGAL has a mark.

[Higurashi]

I'm not one to care much for detailed differences in stats.. I tend to wing it, but this is fairly useful.

[kirchj33]

I'm not one to care much for detailed differences in stats.. I tend to wing it, but this is fairly useful.

Yeah, the difference between the top efficiency seems to be only a couple hundred score per hour, the most important thing is that you have fun!

Very nice work here.  I'll stay tuned.

BTW, MGAL has a mark.

Fixed!  Thanks.

Btw, I'm pretty impressed with SCEM's performance through the first 50 games.  I'm sure I just had a great run, but impressed nonetheless.  Am I mistaken or was SCEM not included in TTW 2.0?

[jmdt]

Btw, I'm pretty impressed with SCEM's performance through the first 50 games.  I'm sure I just had a great run, but impressed nonetheless.  Am I mistaken or was SCEM not included in TTW 2.0?

I have the stats, but have not updated yet.  I'll do that when I get home.  Its one of my favorites.

Another deck to look at is vader saders.

[kirchj33]

Btw, I'm pretty impressed with SCEM's performance through the first 50 games.  I'm sure I just had a great run, but impressed nonetheless.  Am I mistaken or was SCEM not included in TTW 2.0?

I have the stats, but have not updated yet.  I'll do that when I get home.  Its one of my favorites.

Another deck to look at is vader saders.

Added.  If anyone else has any EM scoring efficiency deck suggestions, I will be glad to consider testing.

[Tea is good]

says 10 life towers in the description for USEM deck. There are 5 towers and 5 pends in the pic. Also thanks for the stats, I was really wondering whether SCEM was faster than USEM.

[kirchj33]

says 10 life towers in the description for USEM deck. There are 5 towers and 5 pends in the pic. Also thanks for the stats, I was really wondering whether SCEM was faster than USEM.

Yeah, I think a couple of the tower builds are off, I will fix them before the day is over.  Thanks!
*edit* fixed!

BTW, MGAL has a mark.

Before I go too much further, what's the optimized build for MGAL?  I had 6 mummies, 6 recluses at first, but then saw your decks page had 5 mummies, 6 recluses, 2 bone dragons.  I would think to probably go -1 bone dragon, +1 tower or heal from what you have on your deck page, but I haven't played with it other than 8 games before stopping....