[OUTDATED - v1.26] turns to win study 2.0 (version 1.26)

[thatnewguy]

It's a pvp deck it's meant to win not to be extremely fast. Look at the CC, PC and stalling fast is not exactly what this was designed for.

[warriorforge]

It's a pvp deck it's meant to win not to be extremely fast. Look at the CC, PC and stalling fast is not exactly what this was designed for.

Yeah i understand obviously. Its a good deck, i never said it wasnt, but i am just wondering why this is going here. Shouldnt this be in the pvp deck section?

[Higurashi]

It's not a speedbow: it's a poisonbow. This thread is not only for the absolutely fastest decks. Please stop posting. x)

[willng3]

Colours Ablaze (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12878.0.html)

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 713 77g 77g 7ae 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7qb 7tb 809 809 809 809 809Games:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   65.020
Sec/Turn:   10.24743893
Clicks/Game:   16.195
Clicks/Turn:   2.552403467
Score/Min:   17.54690864
Electrum/Min:   18.23900338
   
Time overall (min.):   216.733
Wins:   192
Ems:   30
Losses:   8
Score:   3803
Electrum:   3953

Avg ttw:   6.177
ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   27
ttw 5:   60
ttw 6:   41
ttw 7:   28
ttw 8:   14
ttw 9:   9
ttw 10:   2
ttw 11:   9
ttw 12:   2
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0

This made me so sad...the previous third fastest deck now doesn't even break the 6TTW sound barrier.  In conclusion:  Run of the mill Immolation/Cremation rushes are appearing to have become obsolete.  Looks like we'll have to try harder to create the fastest deck eva now

[Higurashi]

With permission from jmdt for a small tweak:

-The Healbow - Speed Rainbow Healing at its Finest. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11831.0.html): 7.712 ttw losses: 2 EM: 127 games: 200 - posted by jmdt - updated by Higurashi
5 Quantum Tower, 6 Supernova, 2 Flesh Recluse, 1 Elite Charger, 2 Elite Graboid, 3 Improved Heal, 2 Minor Phoenix, 1 Abyss Crawler, 1 Improved Fog, 1 Unstable Gas, 3 Precognition, 1 Vampire Dagger, 1 Vampire, 1 Phase Recluse, Entropy Mark.

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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 713 713 745 77g 77g 7ai 7ai 7ai 7dm 7ds 7ds 7gm 7n0 7n6 7qb 7qb 7tb 7td 80gSpreadsheet: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=takp27nyJrI-YPUicD6Vd5Q#gid=0
100 games ran: Not much difference, some of it thanks to the tweak. A bit slower, but it's very hard to lose with it. Hence all those 8-14 turn wins that lowers the ttw.

200 games ran: At first I thought this deck was going to go undefeated, but then the Air/Light/Life Elder got two epic hands and stopped the deck stone cold with a Hope at 4-5 and climbing by 2-3 every turn, while at the same time healing a ton and doing good damage. I generally found myself wanting another Explosion, so that's likely I will run when I use this deck to gain score, since Precogs often mean I have too much quanta.

[nerd1]

entropy mono i tested for 10 games. had a ttw of 8.1, no masteries.

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vfreasonably fast, but someone else should finish the testing...

[LongDono]

I think I will test a steam machine deck for this. ( unupped )
Steam machine is fast enough I think with the new buff.
Will test against AI 3

[Higurashi]

Guys, guys.. calm down. As it is, we've been testing decks from the old turns to win study thread after permission from jmdt. We don't need tests ran on random decks, and you shouldn't test decks you made on your own. Furthermore, only one person tests a deck. See here for reference: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17903.msg245805#msg245805

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I'll start testing Frogtal (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3949.0.html):

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[jmdt]

I'll start testing Frogtal (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3949.0.html):

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7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 80i 80i 80i 80iTweaked with pendulums for increased consistency.

Looks good

[willng3]

Reserving Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush)

Done.

[wizelsnarf]

Umm can someone test this deck for me? Fragile Flyers (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18220.0.html)

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Stats (for 50 games, AI3)

Wins: 48
Losses: 2
Win %: 96%
EM: 28%

Average Time: 87.62
Average TTW: 6.6875


Some notes. I won and failed to EM with heal in hand at least 5 times. It is hard to play fast and EM because the adren + dive makes it kind of confusing. So I think the EM rate would be higher if it was played a little more carefully.

Both my losses were to early Otyughs. Obviously this deck is very fragile, though its pretty quick. I had a surprising number of 5 turn wins... Also, I noticed damsels probably did 50% of my damage, except in cases of shields.

JMDT, any thoughts on the build? The Tower distribution is PERFECT. Earthquake and denial doesn't phase this deck once you get an adren damsel. You almost always have a first turn where you can play a damsel and a second turn where you can either play a wyrm or an adren. I thought it might benefit from -1 adre + 1 heal but willng3 thought it was okay so I went ahead with the version above.


Thanks!