The False Gods Farming deck collection

[avidteen13]

@CB! I tried your deck in trainer and finally beat a fg.  Thanks!

+Karma for a very helpful post

[Qohelet]

70% win rate needed for post an anti-fg deck? I just don't believe there are any 70% win rate deck around here. Reason for that is simple: there is enough hard false god's to drop win rate under 70%. Personally I think that all statistics give always little amount of false information. I mean 'human factor', we make stupid errors sometimes when playing elements. I give few examples from my own games: while playing I take a break and get some food from kitchen, when I come back computer's screensaver is running AND I forgot situation when I was playing, so I press spacebar (shut down screensaver) => instantly deck out happen. Once I rewinded my own flying eternity with another (in hand), and so on.. it's just "damn, what I'm doing?". After game you write down that embarrasing loss and nobody ever think what story is behind actual numbers / FG. Somebody else have better win rate with same deck, what say something about that 'human factor'.

I remember at least 3 games where I made something so stupid that my game ended accidentally. In this case it don't matter so much, but my point is: we usually think that numbers give us objective information about deck's effectiveness and sametime we can read about less experienced players frustration (ex. there isn't enough time quantum and I deck out too often - or something like that) or players don't always understand how "single sided" deck can be (ex. mono-aether; wins 'easy enough' FG's and also loses many).

My statistics so far (pharoh deck):

...win-lose...
Ferox 2-1
Neptune 2-2
Osiris 0-2
Seism 3-2
Fire Queen 2-1
Obliterator 3-2
Destiny 2-0
Miracle 1-1
Decay 0-1
Rainbow 0-3
Morte 2-2
Dream Catcher 0-3
Incarnate 4-0
Octane 2-2
Gemini 1-0
Eternal Phoenix 3-0
Hermes 0-3
Divine Glory 1-4
Elidris 1-1
Chaos Lord 1-2
Scorpio 2-0
Dark Matter 0-1

win 31/62 total

As you can see, win rate is 50% and there is at least 3x faux pas. So I'm sure that somebody can play this better, more accurately and in long run, it will show in win rate-% too.  Sorry, but I'm "little" sceptical and think that we have no idea behind numbers

ah, the deck:

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[avidteen13]

Well, Cisco said you only need 60% to put it on here.  His was 70%.  Anything 50+ deserves to be posted though.  You do have a good point with the human factor.  I, being non-1337, can probably not play these decks and get anything better that a 10% win rate.  So far I've only been farming AI3's.

[CB!]

Also, most (if not all) of these decks are old decks, that aren't nearly as effective as they were...  I think about the best FG farming deck now can get around 60%...

[avidteen13]

btw, what is the most effective FG deck?

[CB!]

btw, what is the most effective FG deck?

I use a variation of PuppyChow's FG Rainbow (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1748.0.html).

Here's (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,15.0.html) the section for false god decks...

[Qohelet]

Well, Cisco said you only need 60% to put it on here.  His was 70%.  Anything 50+ deserves to be posted though.  You do have a good point with the human factor.  I, being non-1337, can probably not play these decks and get anything better that a 10% win rate.  So far I've only been farming AI3's.

Oops, my mistake

Yep, faming AI3 is good option, when you have upped towers and few other most important cards upped it's time to play against FG's. PuppyChows deck is quite good (tested it, but it's not for me, at this point I have about 250 upped cards, so I can make almost any anti-fg deck around here) and one as good (I think) is that Butterfly Angel. Few hard fg's (divine glory, eternal phoenix, octane) are little harder for those two decks if you compare it to my pharaoh deck - but overall my pharao deck don't win games so often (as you can see, there is quite lot losses against relatively easy fg's like ferox, fire queen and neptune).

For me 'right tools against every fg' is my approach, so my deck is never optimized against few relatively easy fg's. Still winning much games via easy fights against fg's without permanent control is one option: you gain cards/electrum - it doesn't really matter if you quit half of your games if your win rate against beatable fg's (for your deck) is like >85%.

This one is "easy-to-use -deck", just one option for less experienced players. Decking out is not real issue with this deck and there is also reasonable amount that so called 'defensive stuff'. Basicly this deck contains all really needed anti-fg things. Rewind all too scary cards, fill fg's side with cells, antimatter 2 heavy hitters, eat some critters with otyugh, other for butterfly so you can destroy annoying permanents. Against Octane/Decay use Jade Shield (or just when you don't have Fog or Permafrost shield in hand). Maybe one more hourglass is good idea (-1 quantum tower, +1 electrum hourglass).

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[Lluis83]

This one is "easy-to-use -deck", just one option for less experienced players. Decking out is not real issue with this deck and there is also reasonable amount that so called 'defensive stuff'. Basicly this deck contains all really needed anti-fg things. Rewind all too scary cards, fill fg's side with cells, antimatter 2 heavy hitters, eat some critters with otyugh, other for butterfly so you can destroy annoying permanents. Against Octane/Decay use Jade Shield (or just when you don't have Fog or Permafrost shield in hand). Maybe one more hourglass is good idea (-1 quantum tower, +1 electrum hourglass).

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   I like this deck, its slow but effective. +1karma for the deck

[icybraker]

What, no one did one of these yet? Posting, then.

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Win rate? Slightly less than a well-made Rainbow deck, I would say.
Speed? About four times faster on average.

[8307c4]

He meant 70% loss ratios

[avidteen13]

He meant 70% loss ratios

I doubt it.  Why would he post a deck that loses 70% of the time?

[CB!]

He did mean 70%.  The thread is from a long time ago... when the better false god decks could win 80-85% of the time...