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« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:02 pm »

yeah lev played that deck in t50 annoyed the crap out of me. well looking at it ..not the same deck the one I meant had too firestormes as well

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« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:02 pm »

I took out one twin universe and added a firestorm... while nice, i think 2 TU for 40 cards isn't necessary.

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« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:02 pm »

I'm trying a slightly different deck now, with some influence from skillgannon's deck, which uses lots of TUs and no firestorms.  I don't use firestorms, but I still have 2 plagues in it ;p.



So far I like it, sometimes vs. some gods, having more creatures (TUs) allows you to make it past the barrage of bolts, congeals, gravity pulls, etc., and keep creatures on the board... which can lead to wins.

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« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

Hi all,

I finally found a deck that performs well against all gods. I started with scaredgirl's deck as many of us (thanks a lot!) but something was not to my taste. Some gods start really fast and i was often crushed in a few turns.

Here it is (sorry, i don't know how to put the image)

Mark is time

10 quantum towers
10 quantum pillars
6 novas
6 sundials
6 electrum hourglasses
2 bone walls
1 graveyard
1 phase shield
1 improved miracle
1 purify
2 feral bonds
2 fire storms
2 rains of fire
3 improved steals
1 pulverizer
1 eternity
1 elite queen
2 elite otyughs
2 fallen druids

This is not very different from other anti-god decks but the main idea is speed. Everything is not upgraded yet so it's probably not the final version.

Now, i don't have problems with quanta (even against seism) because i have a lot of pillars and novas. Also i don't get as many bad draws (maybe i was lucky?!). Once you have the accelerating cards (hourglass+sundial), you take control in a few turns.

I'm drawing like crazy sometimes so eternity secures me to avoid decking out. Pulverizer is a must. I don't feel the need for too many walls because i get all my cards quickly. I dropped the mind flayer because he was too weak (even if it works very well with druid to neutralize the big mutants you create). I'm not sure about the upgraded elf as i use it a lot in defence, it good be better to have the basic one. Fire storm is the key of the defence. Only Gemini's dragons might resist a few waves but against him the creatures are safe. Steal is a good backup if i don't draw my pulv. I prefer the improved yard even if it's a bit more expensive (more damage+ resist to a 0/2 oty).

I can't tell the exact percentage i made because i didn't write the results but it's quite high. Hermes is the worst for me, then comes Rainbow, Seism, Graviton; Scorpio has a little chance as well as Chaos Lord (weak but sometimes he gets a stealing mutant on turn 1!). And it's close to 100% against the others.

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« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

I have to disagree. If i draw purify or miracle, it usually saves me. But purify is better. It gives time to organize the bonds. With this card i win most of the time against him. But you're right that it's not a perfect card and i'd rather have something useful in every situation.

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« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

I would get rid of purify. There is no reason to EVER take it in any deck- it will cause you to lose more often than not. If you're already losing to scorpio, this will never save you. Maybe against morte- but not likely. Against all other FGs it's a wasted card draw when you could be drawing something better.

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« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

I've beaten Scorpio with at least 30 poison several times. Even managed to time it to get a mastery several times with over 20 poison without purify.

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« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

If you get a couple feral bonds/graveyard/ffq going you can easily out-heal the poison. True it's a bit more difficult unupgraded, but (for example) protect artifact would be useful against Seism, Rainbow, Chaos Lord, Hermes and Graviton. A purify against Scorpio generally will buy you 2-3 more turns before you die anyways. The only thing it ever helped me do was get a mastery against Scorpio when I was winning anyways. that's not really much of a benefit when all that really matters against the FGs is getting to the slots!

It might help in a couple limited circumstances, but more often than not is just a wasted card sitting in your hand.

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« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

I agree with Hamster. Purify is a purely situational defensive card, designed to help you not die. You will almost always want to draw somthing that will help you win instead of help you not lose.

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« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

I would get rid of purify. There is no reason to EVER take it in any deck- it will cause you to lose more often than not. If you're already losing to scorpio, this will never save you. Maybe against morte- but not likely. Against all other FGs it's a wasted card draw when you could be drawing something better.
When I started with a non-upgraded deck, I used purify because I wanted to be able to beat Scorpio. With non-upgraded deck and no Purify or Miracle, it's pretty much a guaranteed loss. With Purify you at least have a chance, even if it is a small one.

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« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

I've beaten Scorpio with at least 30 poison several times. Even managed to time it to get a mastery several times with over 20 poison without purify.
That is beside the point. I never said he cannot be beaten without Purify. I've done it tons of times myself. The point is that with Purify your odds are much better, especially if you use a non-upgraded deck.

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« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

I agree with Hamster. Purify is a purely situational defensive card, designed to help you not die. You will almost always want to draw somthing that will help you win instead of help you not lose.
While that might sound cool the first time you hear it, when you think about it, it doesn't make any sense.

"Not losing" is a big part of winning. It you have 20+ poison and no way of dealing with it, it doesn't matter if you have a handful of "winner" cards, you will lose that match. Using your logic, we should never take any defensive cards because they are designed to help us "not die").

Purify is very situational, that is it's main weakness. Not the fact that it only helps you "not lose".

 

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