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Re: Competition: Card Design War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36747.msg473294#msg473294
« Reply #132 on: March 23, 2012, 12:20:27 am »
I'm so happy i won, but i'm also sad, because i thought very much on my card (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37022.0.html) and i thought of proposing it in crucible after the end of the competition, but i didn't expect that Stealth Flyer (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27512.0.html) (reported by Rutarete) had such a similar concept.

EDIT: just to hear other people opinions... how similar do you think these cards are?

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Re: Competition: Card Design War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36747.msg473327#msg473327
« Reply #133 on: March 23, 2012, 03:21:55 am »
Good match ZBlader,
I think having a 0|0 Air creature to mimic an Air spell might have cost you some votes.

I guessed 3/3 this time though 1 was a very close match. I will be examining Jeweled Plant | Adorned Flora more closely.

Good luck Drake_XIV. Your strengths seem to lie both in Spells/Permanents and in extremely unique effects. I expect to see an innovative idea next round.
I suppose. In it's defense though, the 0 | 0 was intentional to synergize with buff cards and give more oppotunities with other elements.

You picked a simple concept that is well-known on the forums and creates new decktypes, which would've probably required me to make something of Quantum Locket-quality to bypass. Absol's curse also threw a monkey wrench into my ideas (unlike your curse, which was completely negligible) and as a result the combined factors forced me into a more limited situation than you.

Good match.

@Themanuz : Both cards are affiliated with darkness in some way and involve spawning cards that can swap positions. I'm afraid they may be too similar for some player's tastes unless a decent explanation is provided for differences.


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Re: Competition: Card Design War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36747.msg473340#msg473340
« Reply #134 on: March 23, 2012, 04:13:09 am »
Old Trees' was just a weaker copy of a Magic: TG card.

Zblader's was an original idea, though probably too 'complex'.

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Re: Competition: Card Design War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36747.msg473350#msg473350
« Reply #135 on: March 23, 2012, 05:15:55 am »
Aw, so close. Congratz Xeno :)
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Re: Competition: Card Design War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36747.msg473360#msg473360
« Reply #136 on: March 23, 2012, 05:51:48 am »
I'm so happy i won, but i'm also sad, because i thought very much on my card (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37022.0.html) and i thought of proposing it in crucible after the end of the competition, but i didn't expect that Stealth Flyer (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27512.0.html) (reported by Rutarete) had such a similar concept.

EDIT: just to hear other people opinions... how similar do you think these cards are?
Same core idea. Different implementation at the timing level.
They are close enough that I would suggest altering Stealth Flyer (because you did find a better timing implementation). Unfortunately it is really hard to change elements in the Crucible. This might imply trying to find an Air creature theme to fit the mechanic or it might imply trying to jump polls.

However there is a possible alternative of submitting it separately. For this I would suggest getting Rutarete's permission and moomoose's approval. The reason I suggest getting moomoose's approval is that I have found that moomoose's opinions acts as a good barometer for if the forum would approve.

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Yeah the curses tipped the scales a bit. Even with the curses and my idea, I was very nervous that you would pull out a Quantum Locket level card to match my entry.
Sidenote: I thought the 0|0 creature was weird but I agree that it added depth (multiple balance equations) to the card.
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Re: Competition: Card Design War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36747.msg473409#msg473409
« Reply #137 on: March 23, 2012, 12:54:00 pm »
I'm so happy i won, but i'm also sad, because i thought very much on my card (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37022.0.html) and i thought of proposing it in crucible after the end of the competition, but i didn't expect that Stealth Flyer (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27512.0.html) (reported by Rutarete) had such a similar concept.

EDIT: just to hear other people opinions... how similar do you think these cards are?
Same core idea. Different implementation at the timing level.
They are close enough that I would suggest altering Stealth Flyer (because you did find a better timing implementation). Unfortunately it is really hard to change elements in the Crucible. This might imply trying to find an Air creature theme to fit the mechanic or it might imply trying to jump polls.

However there is a possible alternative of submitting it separately. For this I would suggest getting Rutarete's permission and moomoose's approval. The reason I suggest getting moomoose's approval is that I have found that moomoose's opinions acts as a good barometer for if the forum would approve.

@ZBlader
Yeah the curses tipped the scales a bit. Even with the curses and my idea, I was very nervous that you would pull out a Quantum Locket level card to match my entry.
Sidenote: I thought the 0|0 creature was weird but I agree that it added depth (multiple balance equations) to the card.
Thanks for your suggestion. I will ask Moomoose and Rutarete.

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Re: Competition: Card Design War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36747.msg473497#msg473497
« Reply #138 on: March 23, 2012, 10:35:55 pm »
Good luck Drake_XIV. Your strengths seem to lie both in Spells/Permanents and in extremely unique effects. I expect to see an innovative idea next round.
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Re: Competition: Card Design War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36747.msg473540#msg473540
« Reply #139 on: March 24, 2012, 01:04:20 am »
Aw, so close. Congratz Xeno :)
Very close indeed. Be nice when you haunt me!

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Re: Competition: Card Design War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36747.msg473550#msg473550
« Reply #140 on: March 24, 2012, 02:05:15 am »
ROUND 3 voting has now ended! Check the spoiler below OR the following link for what you should do if you lost (i.e. - became a ghost). Have fun, and again, please ask questions if you're confused: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,36747.msg492759#msg492759

GHOST PHASE:
BOO!
Round 3 is now over; the losers of the Round 3 have now become ghosts. All other ghosts of Round 2 (excluding those below) have been 'exorcised' (now no longer part of the game). Check the brackets to see your standings!

The following players who are still haunting their targets from Round 2 are:

Vineroz (haunting TheManuz)
Izaya (haunting OldTrees)


Because of Death's reign, the fallen have now become temporary ghosts to haunt their victorious enemies! Players that have lost who still wish to participate in the Card Design War (as a ghost) must do these two things:

  • Guess how many votes their opponent will receive the following turn
  • Choose from one of the following 'Curses' that the opponent must also deal with the following turn
    • Elemental Fury) The winner’s card CANNOT be one of the following elements (name 4 elements):
    • Species Taboo) The winner’s card CANNOT be of the following card type (creature, spell, or permanent):
    • Naming Blight) The winner's card CANNOT have the following 3 letter consonants (not vowels!) in their name (name 3 letters):
    • Eternal Debt) The winner's card MUST fulfill a requirement of the current or previous round (name the requirement):
Example:
I'm guessing that zanzarino will get 1 vote the following turn.
Naming Blight: X, Q, Z

Post your 'Curse' on this topic before the deadline ends, otherwise, sit back and congratulations to all the players who won!

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Re: Competition: Card Design War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36747.msg473559#msg473559
« Reply #141 on: March 24, 2012, 02:20:26 am »
Not going to.

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Re: Competition: Card Design War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36747.msg473572#msg473572
« Reply #142 on: March 24, 2012, 03:20:07 am »
I'm guessing OldTrees will get 13 votes.

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Re: Competition: Card Design War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36747.msg473584#msg473584
« Reply #143 on: March 24, 2012, 04:00:04 am »
Got my revenge on Z.
Now you have to continue my pursuit.

Also my guess on final matchup:
OldTrees vs TheManuzStill, good luck to everyone!
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