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Re: Card Designer Challenge : Your Own Rare? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21688.msg282661#msg282661
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 12:15:26 am »
My Critique on Rarity:
2 points for good reasons for it being rare
1 point for meeting each of my criteria for rare cards

Sylph | Sylph (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21608.0.html)
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Air is not known for being an element whose creatures have a solid amount of HP. They do however have strong skills and good attack power. The inability for an enemy to target Air creatures compliments the element appropriately and works with Fog Shield's theme. This would make it a good Rare card for Air because although the element does not --need-- this card to make good decks, this card compliments various of its decks.
Summary:
A card is not a good rare if it is a needed staple.
A card is a good elemental rare if it has many uses within that element.

Critique:
These are both good criteria and Sylph fulfills both.
Furthermore Sylph can be used without needing to first collect 4+ copies, it is balanced against common cards and does something unique [cause invisibility]
Law of Series | Law of Series (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21707.0.html)
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Why you believe this card is worth being rare?
With this spell you can choose which cards you or your opponent are going to draw for a few turns. I think it's powerful enough to be rare.

Why you think this card would be good as a rare?
It is versatile and can be used in various ways. Also It fit very well its element, Time.
Summary:
Rare cards are powerful
Rare cards are versatile
Rare cards fit the element well

Critique:
Rarity is no reason for a card to be powerful. Rarity affects the acquisition not the cost to play a card and thus should not affect the power of a card.
No card should be too situational, all cards should be versatile
All elemental cards should fit their element
Why should this be a rare card?

It is not a needed staple for time it does not require 4+ copies to make reasonable use of its effect in bolt decks and was meant to be balanced as if rarity deserved power.

Sea Spectre | Ocean Spectre (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21743.0.html)
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1) With the development of Vanadium Wardens, I do not feel Artic Squid is really worth being a rare, and many other players also seem to support that Arctic Squid should not be rare.

2) As shown by the Bio, this  creature isn't easy to find.

Does the card's overall value fit as a rare?
Yes, it's a weak card when initially played but when played correctly it's immunity to Poison and Fire make it slightly stronger than it's Forest Counterpart.   This also makes a good counter to the Malignant Cell/Flooding Lockdown if you can get a few copies out.
Summary:
Water needs a better card for its rare slot.
Balanced and versatile

Critique:
Water may need a new rare (or warden could be kept rare)
Furthermore it is balanced against common cards, can be used without 4+ copies and does something unique (damage reduction on a creature)

Evil Eye|Evil Eye (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21840.msg299035#msg299035)
Rating: 4/5
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1) It's more than a mass effect card like RoF or Plague, it puts almost a whole stop on CC and PC.
Summary:
It stops CC and PC


Critique:
If everyone wants a card then the card is too powerful. Rarity is not a balancing tool.
Futhermore this card can be used without 4+ copies and does something unique and will now be balanced against common cards.

PS: 4/5 is a barely passing grade in my book. I would only vote for 5/5s.
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Re: Card Designer Challenge : Your Own Rare? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21688.msg282687#msg282687
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2011, 12:40:48 am »
Thanks for the feedback. I realize that this would be used in the same manner as SoG, and that it's as not OP as i think it is. That was probably the example deck's doing. Games can still be fun against decks running 6 SoGs, and i hope would be with Evil Eye too.

Edit: I still want more feedback
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Re: Card Designer Challenge : Your Own Rare? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21688.msg283324#msg283324
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2011, 09:20:16 pm »
Thank you to all those voting Sylph.

OldTrees, thank you for the review. It means a lot to me.

Hopefully Sylph, a signature sprite of :air Air is one day added to the game. If not the way I imagined, in some other fashion, and given the zanzarino style.

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Re: Card Designer Challenge : Your Own Rare? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21688.msg283928#msg283928
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2011, 06:00:32 pm »
Just spotted this as been away for a while - cool idea. Not sure I can come up with something in time, but reading through it seems with Ocean Spectre I kinda have an entry already  8)

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Re: Card Designer Challenge : Your Own Rare? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21688.msg284775#msg284775
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2011, 05:42:22 pm »
With this spell you can choose which cards you or your opponent are going to draw for a few turns. I think it's powerful enough to be rare.

Why you think this card would be good as a rare?
It is versatile and can be used in various ways. Also It fit very well its element, Time.
Summary:
Rare cards are powerful
Rare cards are versatile
Rare cards fit the element well

Critique:
Rarity is no reason for a card to be powerful. Rarity affects the acquisition not the cost to play a card and thus should not affect the power of a card.
No card should be too situational, all cards should be versatile
All elemental cards should fit their element
Why should this be a rare card?

It is not a needed staple for time but it does require 4+ copies to make reasonable use of its effect and was meant to be balanced as if rarity deserved power.

I understand why you think you need 4+ copies but it depends how you play it:
If you have your creature and only need your copies of fractal to end the game or if you have your quantas and only need your fire lance to burn down your opponnent you need ONLY ONE Law of Series to get the job done.

About the "why rare" answers... well I'm not good at all in english and have to use On-line translators, French/English dictionnary AND "The Conjugator" to write all my posts, so please understand I'm not going to theorize about the underlying signification of a rare card in a GAME.

Thanks for your interest anyway^^




Minor update:   I changed the cost of the Law of Series to 7/5

Thanks to everyone who voted for this card :)

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Re: Card Designer Challenge : Your Own Rare? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21688.msg284800#msg284800
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2011, 06:06:19 pm »
please understand I'm not going to theorize about the underlying signification of a rare card in a GAME.
How can you design a good rare card without knowing or at least theorizing about the underlying signification of a rare card in the game?

The point of the competition was to design a card that would be a good rare not to design a card and call it rare.

I personally would be fine with a theory in French (although I do not speak French). I can do the work of trying to translate it and post the translation.

PS: updated the score to 2/5. You had a good point that it could be useful is acquiring bolts (plural) in the end game.
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Re: Card Designer Challenge : Your Own Rare? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21688.msg284946#msg284946
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2011, 09:14:23 pm »
please understand I'm not going to theorize about the underlying signification of a rare card in a GAME.
How can you design a good rare card without knowing or at least theorizing about the underlying signification of a rare card in the game?

The point of the competition was to design a card that would be a good rare not to design a card and call it rare.

I personally would be fine with a theory in French (although I do not speak French). I can do the work of trying to translate it and post the translation.

PS: updated the score to 2/5. You had a good point that it could be useful is acquiring bolts (plural) in the end game.

I haven't said I never think about it and put a random card from my mind in that contest, I try to explain why my answers can seem simplistic or inappropriate.

Thanks for your offer but my answers seem acceptable to me.

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Re: Card Designer Challenge : Your Own Rare? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21688.msg286526#msg286526
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2011, 11:35:02 pm »
Hey guys. I've been thinking alot, and I'd just like to say that I'd look foward to a Water rare in the game that truly deserves to be called a rare, but at the same time being interesting and usuable in many situations.

Sea Spectre is the result of this, a lot of thought and designing on my part, as well as testing out several deck ideas that it could be used in, one of those decks resulting in the False God Sieren. 

I'm trusting that you'll help give Water a much needed boost, with supporting this card being one of the steps taken to improve it in Elements the Game. Sure, it may be a small step, but it could also be the start of something big.

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Re: Card Designer Challenge : Your Own Rare? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21688.msg286684#msg286684
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2011, 02:46:28 am »
Hey guys. I've been thinking alot, and I'd just like to say that I'd look foward to a Water rare in the game that truly deserves to be called a rare, but at the same time being interesting and usuable in many situations.

Sea Spectre is the result of this, a lot of thought and designing on my part, as well as testing out several deck ideas that it could be used in, one of those decks resulting in the False God Sieren. 

I'm trusting that you'll help give Water a much needed boost, with supporting this card being one of the steps taken to improve it in Elements the Game. Sure, it may be a small step, but it could also be the start of something big.

Many thanks for reading.
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:water Water is already accounted for with Arctic Squid, whether worthy or not. ^_^

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Re: Card Designer Challenge : Your Own Rare? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21688.msg289250#msg289250
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2011, 02:11:22 am »
Congratulations to  :water  Sea Spectre | Ocean Spectre (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21743.0.html)  :water for winning this Card Designer Challenge. By winning it has proved itself a high quality card that is also worthy of being a rare and would be a good addition to the game as well.



Congratulations to :air Sylph | Sylph (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21608.0.html) for winning the Honorable Mention award. While it has not won the competition it has also proven itself a well-made card.  If you like this card you may also be interested in the Winner,  :water  Sea Spectre | Ocean Spectre (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21743.0.html)  :water as well.

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Re: Card Designer Challenge : Your Own Rare? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21688.msg289251#msg289251
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2011, 02:14:24 am »
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Re: Card Designer Challenge : Your Own Rare? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21688.msg289252#msg289252
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2011, 02:15:57 am »
Thanks Rutarete. I'm slightly disappointed by the lack of participation in this competition though. Hopefully the next one will be better.

Also, I really liked Sylph Hyroen. Best of luck for it in the Mythology competition.

 

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