[Official] Reflective shield | Mirror Shield

[killybob]

this card is kinda crap. so what if it's immortal? rarely any of your opponents ever directly attack your base hp with spells and you can get far more profitable stuff for three times the amount. basically it has no real purpose and I wouldn't ever be tempted to spend 1.5k upping it. surely there is something better to have than that. maybe it could be to defend from damage or something or maybe blind your enemy on occasion.

anyway i really thing something better could be made of it. take emerald shield for example. it is immortal, defends from spells, and it prevents 1 damage from getting through. I know light already has a good shield (solar shield/buckler) going but so does life (thorn carapace plus emerald shied) and an extra one would give untold benefit such as new tactics and greater choice or range. anyway please buff this card.

[OldTrees]

Cheap cards are weak cards or they would be too efficient.
Expensive cards are strong cards or they would be too inefficient.

Reflective shield is an inexpensive shield that stops Bolt OTK decks, delays Bolt finisher decks and partially blocks Unstable Gas.

[killybob]

hmm that's kind of a good point. you say PARTIALLY blocks gas? shouldn't it TOTALLY block it?

[OldTrees]

hmm that's kind of a good point. you say PARTIALLY blocks gas? shouldn't it TOTALLY block it?

It does not protect the creatures

[TheonlyrealBeef]

The card itself is pretty good, it's usually just situational, unless you grab a bolt deck, in which case this card becomes a perfect addition. It's cheap, and allows you to get past your opponent's reflective shield (by targetting spells on yourself), and blocks the opponents' spells like UG (perfect if you expect it). No buff needed in my opinion.

[xdude]

So, this shield is no good unless the opponent plays ONLY UG's for damage and in the rest of the time it's completely useless? Fair enough... 

[OldTrees]

So, this shield is no good unless the opponent plays ONLY UG's for damage and in the rest of the time it's completely useless? Fair enough... 

Nay, it is good if they are foolish enough to use any UG or Bolts at a user of Light. (targeting creatures still would work). However I must admit that in your case Xdude the power of the threat of Reflective Shield is almost equal in strength to the actual shield itself. Hence your title protects you as if you had it in your deck without actually needing it.

[Daytripper]

Yes, but this shield costs almost nothing. Upgraded, it blocks only one less damage than the Jade shield, which is 7  . In other words, you can be dead before you can afford that.

This shield is very handy to flick in early in the game when you don't have quanta, or you can set up some kind of lock (aflatoxin) to prevent physical damage and then use it in the endgame, so no spell can finish you downright.

It is also a very solid backup shield in case your normal shield gets hit.

Good shield and easy to use in combination with FFQ, since the Jade shield is kind of heavy on life anyway.

[RootRanger]

Before I continue this argument is about the unupped version; not the upped version of the card. I think the upped version is fine if compared to the solar shield.

I agree with xdude. No matter how little of a quantum cost it has it takes up a spot in your deck. How often are you glad you drew this card? Most of the time you are playing a deck lacking in spell based elemental damage (bolts, UG, lightning). In those cases (nearly every game) you will have wished you drew a different card, or put a different one in your deck.

The reflective shield will only be worth the spot in your deck if you know what your opponent will bring, but this is not the case in PvP (cards are/should be balanced based on PvP performance).

If more people decide to use spell based elemental damage this card would become worth putting in your deck. However, despite the unpopularity of this card spell based elemental damage is uncommon. How many firestall and UG decks do you see in PvP? Personally I have seen only one in dozens of games. This card needs some sort of buff in order to become worth the spot in your deck it takes.

[zse]

Before I continue this argument is about the unupped version; not the upped version of the card. I think the upped version is fine if compared to the solar shield.

I agree with xdude. No matter how little of a quantum cost it has it takes up a spot in your deck. How often are you glad you drew this card? Most of the time you are playing a deck lacking in spell based elemental damage (bolts, UG, lightning). In those cases (nearly every game) you will have wished you drew a different card, or put a different one in your deck.

The reflective shield will only be worth the spot in your deck if you know what your opponent will bring, but this is not the case in PvP (cards are/should be balanced based on PvP performance).

If more people decide to use spell based elemental damage this card would become worth putting in your deck. However, despite the unpopularity of this card spell based elemental damage is uncommon. How many firestall and UG decks do you see in PvP? Personally I have seen only one in dozens of games. This card needs some sort of buff in order to become worth the spot in your deck it takes.

So what you're saying is that there is no good use for this card now. Emphasis on word now. If there were more spell damage & Gas decks going around, this card would be played much more.

Cards should be buffed only if they are weak in every way, and thus unused. Reflective Shield is perfectly fine card, that is nowhere near being weak when compared to let's say Skeleton. R.S. can be easily used in any deck with Novas, Immolations, Quantum Pillars, etc. and it can singlehandedly stop one deck archetype that's widely known, but currently underused. Name another card that has such powers. ???

[xdude]

Let's reword the card text a little, shall we?

Weak Mirror. Permanent, cost 
Your opponent may now blow up his Unstable Gases.

Balanced, huh?

Before I continue this argument is about the unupped version; not the upped version of the card. I think the upped version is fine if compared to the solar shield.

I agree with xdude. No matter how little of a quantum cost it has it takes up a spot in your deck. How often are you glad you drew this card? Most of the time you are playing a deck lacking in spell based elemental damage (bolts, UG, lightning). In those cases (nearly every game) you will have wished you drew a different card, or put a different one in your deck.

The reflective shield will only be worth the spot in your deck if you know what your opponent will bring, but this is not the case in PvP (cards are/should be balanced based on PvP performance).

If more people decide to use spell based elemental damage this card would become worth putting in your deck. However, despite the unpopularity of this card spell based elemental damage is uncommon. How many firestall and UG decks do you see in PvP? Personally I have seen only one in dozens of games. This card needs some sort of buff in order to become worth the spot in your deck it takes.

So what you're saying is that there is no good use for this card now. Emphasis on word now. If there were more spell damage & Gas decks going around, this card would be played much more.

Cards should be buffed only if they are weak in every way, and thus unused. Reflective Shield is perfectly fine card, that is nowhere near being weak when compared to let's say Skeleton. R.S. can be easily used in any deck with Novas, Immolations, Quantum Pillars, etc. and it can singlehandedly stop one deck archetype that's widely known, but currently underused. Name another card that has such powers. ???

Rewind > Immo rush, Speedbow. And yet it's generally a weak card, ALMOST underpowered.
Now, we have another Gas-like card going on: Trebuchet. But guess what, apparently the Mirror Shield is too powerful, so it doesn't block Trebuchet. Also, comparing this to Skeletons is SUCH a low move. Of course there is a card weaker than this. So what? How does this prove anything?

Example: Bob's IQ is 2. Jack's IQ is 1. Obviously, Bob is not stupid, since Jack is more stupid. Wait wut?

[Daytripper]

Let me say that the trebuchet does not do spell damage. It launches a creature, which is not a spell. If the Jade shield does block trebuchet, it would be a huge flaw.

In general I usually consider both versions, but indeed the unupped version is pretty bad. For all I care the unupped version can block 1 damage, if for a higher cost. (4 - 5  )

The problem is that makes it the same as the emerald/Jade shield, which is not the idea. So I don't see how you can fix it. Just upgrade it, if you want a cheap shield.