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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg529636#msg529636
« Reply #504 on: August 06, 2012, 08:05:48 am »
So Instosis has been around a while now, but it is still viable and still in use.

I haven't gotten a single win from this deck vs FG's, and even dropped a few in Arena play. I'm usually dead before I get all the cards needed for the combo. Not a big fan of this deck, although the idea is cool, and it's a rush when it works, but there are other OTK ideas out there that I like more. Of course they suffer from the same problem, hanging on while you wait to build up a 6(ish) card combo.

If you have ZERO wins then 1 or more of the following applies most likely:

1. Your sample size is small (you've played ~5 games or fewer)
2. Your sample variety is limited (you've played the same high difficulty FG's)
3. You are playing the deck incorrectly
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg529643#msg529643
« Reply #505 on: August 06, 2012, 08:36:06 am »
So Instosis has been around a while now, but it is still viable and still in use.

I haven't gotten a single win from this deck vs FG's, and even dropped a few in Arena play. I'm usually dead before I get all the cards needed for the combo. Not a big fan of this deck, although the idea is cool, and it's a rush when it works, but there are other OTK ideas out there that I like more. Of course they suffer from the same problem, hanging on while you wait to build up a 6(ish) card combo.

If you have ZERO wins then 1 or more of the following applies most likely:

1. Your sample size is small (you've played ~5 games or fewer)
2. Your sample variety is limited (you've played the same high difficulty FG's)
3. You are playing the deck incorrectly

It took me a few rounds to get the hang of this deck. Be sure to look at the "Tips" portion of the Instosis wiki. Also, it has break downs for all the FIGS and how you should play against them.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg530261#msg530261
« Reply #506 on: August 07, 2012, 03:33:31 pm »
Ok, I recorded 500 games with Instosis and these are the stats:



I'd say that my stats oscillated from 52% to 58% and averaged at about 55%-56% after 300 games... the final 54% is mostly due to the fact that I've not been very lucky with my picks (as you can see the most often picked ones are Seism, Chaos Lord and Jezebel, all with a ratio win below 50%).
Just for the record, assuming a perfect score vs Akebono and Osiris (which was realistically before the introduction of SoFo when Instosis was made) I would have had about 59% wins.


So for me in order of % I can divide them in:

EASY (>75%)

Lionheart
Neptune
Elidnis
Paradox
Miracle
Fire Queen
Destiny
Incarnate
Gemini -> Gemini is a bit slower version of Ferox in term of rashness

MEDIUM (75%-50%)

Graviton
Ferox -> I didn't find Ferox so easy as most people said, it always brought out a lot of creatures very fast and rushed me. A clogged hand can be fatal vs him.
Morte
Obliterator
Serket
Scorpio

HARD (50%-25%)

Seism -> Seism is probably the easiest of the "hard" gods, I played it by playing a time tower at a time, making it use a quicksand on it, then playing another one. I had a score above 50% until the last matches where I kept getting bad draws.
Chaos Lord
Akebono
Octane
Rainbow
Divine Glory
Jezebel

PROIBITIVE (<25%)

Decay
Hermes
Hecate
Osiris
Dark Matter
Dream Catcher -> It always played that damn Discord immediately
Eternal Phoenix -> I wonder how this one can be considered "medium", did they change something?

I will post some more considerations on them later, if you have some questions, feel free to ask.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg530316#msg530316
« Reply #507 on: August 07, 2012, 07:02:46 pm »
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I wonder how this one can be considered "medium", did they change something?
The AI was buffed after this deck was created, so the permanent targeting priority changed a bit among other things.  I don't believe the OP was updated to reflect this.  Also, Osiris and Akebonub received SoFo.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg530392#msg530392
« Reply #508 on: August 07, 2012, 10:51:32 pm »
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I wonder how this one can be considered "medium", did they change something?
The AI was buffed after this deck was created, so the permanent targeting priority changed a bit among other things.  I don't believe the OP was updated to reflect this.  Also, Osiris and Akebonub received SoFo.

Thanks, I didn't know that. I knew about Osiris and Akenobo in fact that's why I wrote in the intro that I'd had about 59% if tested before the SoFo.


Not gonna make another post for it, but I did it again vs Dark Matter!

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg531506#msg531506
« Reply #509 on: August 10, 2012, 01:16:21 pm »
It's really an awesome deck. Even for a noob like me, i succeed to built a half upgrated Instosis deck and even beat once Rainbow !
Very nice deck even not upgrated.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg531524#msg531524
« Reply #510 on: August 10, 2012, 02:07:11 pm »
It's really an awesome deck. Even for a noob like me, i succeed to built a half upgrated Instosis deck and even beat once Rainbow !
Very nice deck even not upgrated.
Actually,this version is not good when it's unupped. As Supernovas turns to just Novas...
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg531548#msg531548
« Reply #511 on: August 10, 2012, 03:19:53 pm »
It's really an awesome deck. Even for a noob like me, i succeed to built a half upgrated Instosis deck and even beat once Rainbow !
Very nice deck even not upgrated.
Actually,this version is not good when it's unupped. As Supernovas turns to just Novas...

probably the half that was upgraded included the supernovas, otherwise the deck wouldnt even work --'

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg532961#msg532961
« Reply #512 on: August 14, 2012, 10:18:18 am »
I just wanted to ask if i should upgrade SoR first or sundials.I have the entire rest of the deck upped.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg533012#msg533012
« Reply #513 on: August 14, 2012, 01:41:55 pm »
I just wanted to ask if i should upgrade SoR first or sundials.I have the entire rest of the deck upped.
I'd say SoRs but upping sundials are reasonable ONLY against Decay,though. So,economy first
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg533025#msg533025
« Reply #514 on: August 14, 2012, 02:27:33 pm »
I just wanted to ask if i should upgrade SoR first or sundials.I have the entire rest of the deck upped.

Definitely SoR - Some even argue that you should use unupped sundials in this deck because upped sundials might mess with your chances of getting a pillar in your opening hand.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg533085#msg533085
« Reply #515 on: August 14, 2012, 05:19:56 pm »
Unupped dials might mess with your air quanta though.

Question: Is there a Skip-Guide for Instosis somewhere?
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