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Focussed Rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42199.msg524714#msg524714
« on: July 23, 2012, 09:33:21 pm »
This must have been done, I'm sure, but I can't find the code for the Shard of Focus, so can't search for it.  Anyway:

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It'll be much more effective with more Upped cards, and with more Nymphs, but it's pretty good as it is. 

Part of the fun in playing it is in finding the balance between Twin Universing your Shards and your Nymphs.  In general, though, I'd say to only build one Shard up from scratch and if you're going to Twin it, Twin it once it's got 20ish ATK.  It's generally better to Twin the Nyphs because, if you've got the quanta, then 3 of them means that you can constantly use Accretion and take away the added HP every turn, while simultaneously adding 15-18 ATK.

I've only tried it out on AI3 so far, but I'm sure it'll play more difficult leagues, particularly Upped.  Stats:

Lose: 2
Win: 8
EM: 0
ATTW: 10.6

The quickest game was won in just 7 turns, so it's a pretty quick deck.

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Re: Focussed Rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42199.msg524721#msg524721
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 09:40:13 pm »
Upped SoFo code is 6s2. Unupped is 4ti.

Rage focus has been done before, but I don't think it's been done with TU. 80% winrate isn't that great, and 10.6 ttw is just too slow. 7 turns is not quick at all. Unupped fast decks have ttw around 6-7. Upped have them at around 5-6.

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Re: Focussed Rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42199.msg524756#msg524756
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 11:11:30 pm »
New stats from AI3:

Lost: 2
Won: 18
EM: 0
ATTW: 10.8

I reckon that'd be much better with 2 fewer Rage Potions and 2 more Nymphs.  I'm also wondering about getting rid of the Pendula and replacing them with half :fire Towers (or Pillars, as I don't have any :fire Pillars Upped) and half :aether Towers.

I might try that out tomorrow.  Right now it's past my bedtime.

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Re: Focussed Rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42199.msg524929#msg524929
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2012, 07:56:55 am »
New stats before I go to work:

Lost: 3
Won: 28
EM: 0
ATTW: 10.4

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Re: Focussed Rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42199.msg524933#msg524933
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2012, 08:00:33 am »
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Re: Focussed Rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42199.msg524962#msg524962
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2012, 10:20:58 am »
Upped SoFo code is 6s2. Unupped is 4ti.

Rage focus has been done before, but I don't think it's been done with TU. 80% winrate isn't that great, and 10.6 ttw is just too slow. 7 turns is not quick at all. Unupped fast decks have ttw around 6-7. Upped have them at around 5-6.

i dont think this is a rush deck, so getting that kind of ttw is expected and should not be seen as a bad thing. with that much CC and PC, this is a domin deck type, that can either stop a rush or break a stall, wich i think it can do now, even better once he gets the deck fully upped.


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Re: Focussed Rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42199.msg525150#msg525150
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 11:13:53 pm »
It may not be the best deck in the world, but I'm definitely having a lot of fun playing it.  Who wouldn't love unlimited  free Permanent destruction while also dealing huge damage?   The AI targets your Shards of Focus, too, which helps keep the health down.  If you keep them at around 15/16 HP, then there's pretty much nothing which will kill them but you can also use Accretion once and hit them safely with up to 5 Beserks, which is +30 ATK.  Add in a couple of Twin Universes and you're laughing.  Just from that little combo you've got a potential gain of 90 ATK (+ 2 * whatever ATK the Shard had in the first place) in one round.

I've Upped one of the Nymphs now.  I know I should probably do the Pillars and Pendula first, but part of me just wanted another Upped Nymph.

Anyway, current stats against AI3, including games with the Unupped Nymph are:

Lost: 3
Won: 37
EM: 1
ATTW: 9.8
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Re: Focussed Rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42199.msg525152#msg525152
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 11:21:02 pm »
It may not be the best deck in the world, but I'm definitely having a lot of fun playing it.  Who wouldn't love unlimited  free Permanent destruction while also dealing huge damage?   The AI targets your Shards of Focus, too.  If you keep them at around 15/16 HP, then there's pretty much nothing which will kill them but you can also use Accretion once and hit them safely with up to 5 Beserks, which is +30 ATK.  Add in a couple of Twin Universes and you're laughing.  Just from that little combo you've got a potential gain of 90 ATK (+ 2 * whatever ATK the Shard had in the first place) in one round.

I've Upped one of the Nymphs now.  I know I should probably do the Pillars and Pendula first, but part of me just wanted another Upped Nymph.

Anyway, current stats against AI3, including games with the Unupped Nymph are:

Lost: 3
Won: 37
EM: 1
ATTW: 9.8

And that's the mean. The mode is actually

i was carefully reading your post, but then i read:

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Re: Focussed Rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42199.msg525154#msg525154
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 11:32:54 pm »
Well, the synergy is the same I used here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,41853 but this deck is definitely different. I still prefer mine (because mine is rapped, lol joking) because it seems faster at gaining domain of the field (so I either know I'm gonna win or I know I can quit in a second). Still the idea of PU is nice, but it seems to slow down things too much at first sight, wish I had nymphs to try it though.  :P

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Re: Focussed Rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42199.msg525254#msg525254
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2012, 07:23:53 am »
You're going to need to use this one:



Because I've just Upped the other Nymph.

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Re: Focussed Rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42199.msg525330#msg525330
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2012, 02:11:56 pm »
You're going to need to use this one:
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Re: Focussed Rage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42199.msg525911#msg525911
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2012, 06:09:50 pm »
I've done 100 matches against AI 3, now, so have better statistics (or worse, possibly, more on which later).  I've Upped 1 or 2 cards, so it's now this:

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Stats:

Lost: 10
Won: 90
EM: 3
ATTW: 9.15

Now, why I say that it's possibly worse stats is that the last 3 losses were in the last 10 matches.  Which means that either I had a bad run in the last 10, or I had a good run in the previous 90.  More games would obviously create more accurate stats, but I can't be bothered to keep track any more (although I might again once the deck is fully Upped*), so 90% winrate it will remain.

*which will be in about a million years, as I'm very fickle and probably won't play the deck again for ages.

 

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