Fearless Fire - MEGA win rate vs AI5 - many EMs

[QuantumT]

So 100% is either the biggest fluke ever or inaccurate, but the deck itself really is quite effective. I've been use something very similar when I feel like grinding AI5.

[3RIFECI]

 

For those that don't believe, try the deck before you criticize...

If you deck out with this deck: "You're doing it wrong!"

If you lose with this deck: "You're doing it wrong!"

If you don't EM with this deck: "It's ok, it happens sometimes".

You don't like the deck, don't use it.

That is all...

[Jappert]

Never seen a new guy so cocky up untill now.
First stating his deck get's 100% win rate vs AI5, then basically telling us to learn how to play or p*ss off.

You're posting your deck here to discuss right? Or is it only to show off and tell us how cool you are?

If it's discussing, that's exactly what people were doing.

[3RIFECI]

lol not trying to be cocky, I'd say that's more the approach taken by those saying "impossible".

I posted so people could try it n enjoy it. That's it. I've played a while, I just don't post much.

I still haven't lost, playing it right now.. no loss.. Mastis got me to 16HP with big dragons, but still got recovered up to 66HP when I won. Closest I've come to losing.

[hrmmm]

everyone, calm down please.

it looks like a very effectiv half blood deck here.
i tryed this build and have to say it works pretty smooth.

but since there are ways how ai5 can beat that deck (imagine earthquakes, dragons and no shield/sog draw, steal, mindgate, reflectiv, immolation/fahrenheit, ...), i understand why ppl are very sceptic about 100% win clames.

i suggest you take the 100% out of your post subject, maybe untill another member post 100-200 testgames (test results from "neutral" players are always more trustworthy).

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If you deck out with this deck: "You're doing it wrong!"

If you lose with this deck: "You're doing it wrong!"
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no deck is imune to bad luck in this game... dont blame others if this happend.
good luck happens aswell: i doubt you can beat octane again with this deck


back to the deckbuild:
why are the fahrenheits unupped?

[Lovers]

First time i say this about a deck:

AMAZING DECK!
But, not most EM's!

[3RIFECI]

Thank you! A voice of reason!

I DO want to hear from others who play test it. If someone loses though, please provide a screen before you lose.

I DO agree regarding the possibility of a loss, I will remove the 100% as I concede that a loss IS in fact possible; I just have yet to.

Would 99% be sufficient?

About Octane and other FGs, I don't recommend this deck for FGs (or anything other than AI5 really), I just played around a bit and actually beat Octane once. He did destroy me on the second encounter. Life gods were easy with the CC from Buckler.

Regarding the Fahrenheits not upped: I just haven't upped them yet. I have a lot of upped cards, but I don't want to sell any I've been upping. So I started with this deck fully unupped a while ago. I used the cards I won from FGs using my custom RoL deck to up these.

I'm trying to fully up my Light, Aether and Fire decks. I sell anything else (aside from rares).

[hrmmm]

i forgot about chimera in my how-to-get-beaten-by-ai5-list:

btw, unstoppable, discords, tridents+earth, silence can be troublesome aswell.

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Would 99% be sufficient?
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i would remove the number completly from the subject, untill you have trustworthy (for the community) stats.


edit: btw. its pretty much a smaller edition of Fire Stall. I know, I wtf'ed, too. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6515.0.html)

[3RIFECI]

haha hrmmm, I did already remove the #.

I agree those problematic cards could be a problem, however I find the AI to be a bit flawed in how it plays many of them. This is, IMHO, the strategies for those cards (mainly for those that don't already know how to play)

Chimera, when used by AI5, doesn't usually produce a creature with enough attack to overcome my healing. [edit] didn't see your screens, clearly it CAN happen, but I would argue that maybe you should have cleaned house a bit before Chimera was used.

Earthquake/Quicksand, is OFTEN used too early by AI. My experience is that it will use it when only 2 towers/pends are played. And, so far, run into a max of 2 of these cards played against me.

Trident - I explode it!

Steals, usually used early by AI and with 2 of each weapon and shield, I haven't had issue yet. Usually I lose 1 weap or shield then a SoG. As soon as I see steal possible, I draw it out with SoG as those decks don't usually have high attack.

Mindgate - I explode it!

Silence - yes u can't play a card, but I've yet to have it cause a loss.

Discord - explode it, otherwise, not THAT big a problem..  Still produce plenty of Fire.

Unstoppable -  only a problem on big creatures. Lance em.

Dragons - use your Lances as stalls IF you are getting low on HP until you get SoG and buckler out. Only use your Lances if one Lance gets you the kill. don't waste em.

Reflective - this is the FUNNIEST one... I actually found that nearly EVERY HB that had reflective would drop it for another shield (spiny, grav, etc...)  late in the match! Perfect time for the lance attack. In either case, you should play to get the Fahrenheit win if you see reflective shield. Use the Lances for CC as needed.

Against human players these cards are much more of a problem as they would be used more appropriately.

Most important thing here is to adjust your gameplay based on the opponent. Also, you shouldn't sprint for the win, or else you'll miss more EMs. Don't lance creatures just cause you can, you only lance those that WILL and are ABOUT to cause you to lose.

Most of the time, I'm winning with most lances still in my hand.

[kitty45]

I would try it if I could  ... but I never seen i 100% mono deck ..for AI5

[Dragoon]

The deck type works.  Here's my version (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19083.0.html) I did for Fire Trials.  I didn't add any Explosions because it was banned, but it seems like a fairly useful card to have.  Still, I got a 93% win rate.  2 out of those 3 losses were due to bad play (should've done more CC), the other to a bad draw vs. a very good draw for AI.

i forgot about chimera in my how-to-get-beaten-by-ai5-list:

Kill the Chimeras ASAP!  If you let them keep combining, they become near impossible to kill and will kill you faster than you can save up the Fire Q to kill the AI.

Lance high attack, growing, poisonous/venomous, Momentum'd, BE'd creatures and Ashes, especially if you don't have a Fire Buckler and SoGs to keep you afloat.

[Toimu13]

edit: btw. its pretty much a smaller edition of Fire Stall. I know, I wtf'ed, too. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6515.0.html)

I was going to say gimped version.